Orlando

June 6, 2010

Alright, let’s talk about Orlando just a little bit. There are some very important things that need to be discussed. Answer these questions on the comment thread.

1. Are you going?

2. Who are you voting for President of the SBC?

3. Are you going to vote fer, or agin, the Great Commission Report?

4. Do you know of any good restaurants near the place we’re meeting?

5. Will there be any vendors inside the convention center? Ice Cream vendors? Coffee vendors?

6. Will anyone be going to the beach? And, if so, will you put any oil on your body, or just wait until you get into the water to be oiled up?

7. How many stupid, moronic motions, resolutions, and comments will be made this year?

8. Will the Westboro Gang be there to protest us again?

9. Will the gay crowd be there to protest us again?

10. Will Wes Kenney have a hair out of place?

11. Will Tim Rogers wear a pink shirt?

12. Will Scott Gordon laugh?

13. How many of the Pastors over 60 will not wear a suit and tie?

Well, if you can thnk of any more questions that really need to be asked and answered, please add those in the comment thread. I’m looking forward to your answers.

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joe white

1) Yes, I am going.
2) Plan to vote for Ted Traylor.
3) Will enthusiastically vote for the GCRTF Report.
4) No, hope to gain some insight.
5) Don’t know.
6) No beach for me… Disney World is in my future.
7) I would set the over/under on stupid remarks at 7.
8) Fred Phelps idiots will be there.
9) No gay protest this year.
10) No hairs out of place.
11) Yes, pink and purple most likely.
12) Yes.
13) All of them, and at least one under 35 will as well (me).

Bart Barber

1. Yes
2. Jackson
3. For
4. There’s a 2-story McDonalds pretty close to there.
5. Yessireee, I predict that there will.
6. Neither beach nor the Mouse. We may visit Shamu.
7. 15
8. Yes.
9. Yes, and I take both sets of protestors as evidence that we remain in God’s will. When they stop protesting us, I will worry.
10. Only if I start dissing Gaither songs again this year.
11. Absolutely, to match his toenails.
12. Yes
13. Yes

Joel

1. I’ll be there, albeit briefly.
2. I have absolutely no idea . . .YET.
3. I’m for it. Wish there were more substantive things in it, but its better than nothing at all.
4. Nope
5. I’m sure there will be, if its anything at all like previous years.
6. No beach for me. I’m coming down late Monday and leaving in time to get back and teach WEdnesday night. Just enough time for the fight–er, I mean, business. ;-)
7. As always, that depends on who shows up. I’ll refrain from naming names at this point. lol.
8. Does it really matter? Could there be a more irrelevant hate-group in the western world?
9. Well, it IS Orlando. :-)
10. That’s his REAL hair?!?!?!
11. Doesn’t matter if he does. The testosterone will turn it black.
12. dunno.
13. Not sure, although I’m under 60 and do NOT plan on bringing any monkey-suits.

Christiane

Commenting on question number seven:

“7. How many stupid, moronic motions, resolutions, and comments will be made this year? ”

Well, don’t know. What’s considered stupid and moronic? Resolutions that call for honoring and respecting women in the Church, resolutions that call for a time of spiritual renewal and prayer in each of the member Churches, resolutions that ask for condemnation of racial intolerance which has been openly expressed in the form of minority jokes by some Baptist leaders ???

Yes.
It will be interesting to see what kinds of resolutions the majority voters at the Convention consider to be ‘stupid and moronic’.
Let me guess, the resolutions that can’t be ‘openly’ opposed as ‘stupid and moronic’ will be given over to some executive ‘committee’ to study, and there’s an end to it.

I hope I’m wrong, and I hope the Convention will be Christ-honoring.
And that all who attend will travel safely and not get covered with oil at the beaches. (THAT oil is NOT consecrated, you know.)

Be peaceful

Dave Miller

Bart, a wise choice in terms of visiting Shamu. I was a youth pastor down there and and had my fill of the Magic Kingdom. But Sea World is fantastic!

Dave Miller

I will be voting for the GCR – in toto.
I will be voting for Leo Endel as president.

heath lloyd

1. Yes
2. Jackson
3.Undecided on GCR report
6. Sea World
13. Not many

Les Puryear

1. Yes
2. Jackson
3. Against
4. Don’t know
5. Don’t know
6. No
7. Too many
8. Don’t care
9. Don’t care
10. Never
11. Always
12. Of course
13. Very few (I’m almost 60 but only wear suits on Sunday and at funerals)

Steve

Alas dear friends, i will not venture beyond our wintery shores this year… I am greasy enough! I take on a new role in Sydney in August. I will
•Equip and support new and existing Special Religious Education Boards Promote and support local church involvement in state High School ministry in the State High schools during school time. Wecan present the gospel in our High schools if we have enough teachers to do it.
•Plan and implement strategies to increase the reach and impact of state High School ministries
•Negotiate with state High Schools to develop SRE (Special Religious education) programs Network with state High School SRE teachers ands chaplains
•Support and train Youthworks’ College students to work as part time chaplains (paid for by the Australian Federal Government).
•Support and advise local paid SRE teachers and chaplains
•Create and deliver high quality training for state High School SRE teachers and chaplains
And help these folk to be involved in a Union of teachers and chaplains to encourage high standards.
I value your prayers.
Steve

Tom Bryant

1. Are you going? YES

2. Who are you voting for President of the SBC? TED TRAYLOR

3. Are you going to vote fer, or agin, the Great Commission Report? DEPENDS ON IF THE ISSUE IS SEPARATED INTO RECOMMENDATIONS.

4. Do you know of any good restaurants near the place we’re meeting? WE’RE MEETING IN ORLANDO, THERE ARE NO GOOD RESTAURANTS.

5. Will there be any vendors inside the convention center? Ice Cream vendors? Coffee vendors? I HOPE SO

6. Will anyone be going to the beach? And, if so, will you put any oil on your body, or just wait until you get into the water to be oiled up? ORLANDO IS TOO FAR FROM ANY REAL BEACH.

7. How many stupid, moronic motions, resolutions, and comments will be made this year? IF THE OVER/UNDER IS 3, I’LL TAKE THE OVER.

8. Will the Westboro Gang be there to protest us again? OF COURSE.

9. Will the gay crowd be there to protest us again? OF COURSE.

10. Will Wes Kenney have a hair out of place? NEVER!!!

13. How many of the Pastors over 60 will not wear a suit and tie?
I AM 59 AND WON’T WEAR A SUIT. SUITS IN FLORIDA IN JUNE? UGH!

David Worley

Very interesting answers so far. I hope to see more.

Bart, if a 2 story McDonalds is the best that Orlando has near us, then we’re gonna be hurting for good food. Although I do like McD’s every now and then.

Christiane, I doubt that you’ve ever been to an SBC, so you have no idea about some of the things that we hear during the meeting. Believe me, there are some moronic, stupid motions and resolutions that are made. I’m really not sure what you’re talking about…the resolutions that you mentioned. Where do you get this stuff?

David

Christiane

Hi DAVID,

Well . . .
‘where did I get this stuff’ is a very good question.
I was reading Dwight McKissic’s site.
He has some ideas that I hope he presents at the Convention.
I hope you think that his ideas are important, too, for the good of the SBC, David.
Sorry if I sounded cynical, I am not really like that. I’m really much more hopeful that some of the deep divisions among SB’s can be healed in time. I think Dr. McKissic has some good ideas that will help in this healing.

No, I’ve never been to an SBC Convention. As you know, I am Roman Catholic to the backbone. The Southern Baptist faith was the faith of my dear Grandmother, of blessed memory, so I do care what happens in the SBC. David, I care very much.

I hope that you have a safe trip to the Convention. May Our Lord protect you and guide you, David, in all your ways.
Love, L’s

Christiane

More advice on food:

Forget Mc Donalds.
Go to a good supermarket, a really good one. The better ones have salad bars. Load up. Some have soup and chili for sale at the salad bars.
For protein, get some packs of tuna.
You can buy eggs already boiled and peeled.
Get some fresh-baked French bread and some good cheeses. A sandwich of fresh bread, cheeses, and salad fixings drizzled with a little bit of Italian dressing is not a bad way to eat.

Go to stores that prepare fresh juices and put vitamins in them.
If you end up at Starbucks, so be it.
But McDonalds? Heartburn City.

If you have plenty of $$$$$, hit the SEA FOOD RESTAURANTS’ early-bird specials. Yum.

Steven

1. Absolutely
2. Ted Traylor
3. Still having difficulty with #3, but am open-minded
4. I don’t know
5. I hope the coffee vendors will be present.
6. No
7. I would imaginr at least one.
8. More than likely not.
9. I believe so.
10. I don’t know.
11. I don’t know.
12. I don’t know.
13. More that last year for sure.

Dave Miller

I almost made a resolution one year, David. I was going to present a resolution that SBC pastors be given fashion lessons. I was moved by the plethora of garish sportcoats and such. Wish I had done it.

Robert

Not going, so that pretty much eliminates me from the rest of the questions. I used to serve in Florida, and as far as restaurants in Orlando, I have only two words….

Pizzeria Uno.

Chris Johnson

1. Are you going? Yes
2. Who are you voting for President of the SBC? Jackson
3. Are you going to vote fer, or agin, the Great Commission Report? fer
4. Do you know of any good restaurants near the place we’re meeting? No
5. Will there be any vendors inside the convention center? Ice Cream vendors? Coffee vendors? guaranteed
6. Will anyone be going to the beach? And, if so, will you put any oil on your body, or just wait until you get into the water to be oiled up? No beach time for me
7. How many stupid, moronic motions, resolutions, and comments will be made this year? I’m sure every comment or resolution will be well thought out :)
8. Will the Westboro Gang be there to protest us again? Not sure about the gang.
9. Will the gay crowd be there to protest us again? If Baptists show up….
10. Will Wes Kenney have a hair out of place? I look forward to finding out.
13. How many of the Pastors over 60 will not wear a suit and tie?
That will be the most interesting statistic for the week.

Tim Rogers

Brother Chris Johnson,

You did not answer #11. :)

Blessings,
Tim

Brother Joel,

I like your answer to #11. :)

Blessings,
Tim

Chris Johnson

Brother Tim,

I thought that was so obvious …I skipped right over it!.. of course you will :)

Blessings,
Chris

David R. Brumbelow

Christiane,
About your mention of a possible resolution against racism. Suppose one is offered and voted on. Are all those who voted against it racist? No, for several reasons. They may have disagreed with some of the wording or fine points of the statement. They may have felt the SBC had already dealt with this issue in previous resolutions and motions. They may feel some of it is impossible to implement, or that it names some people racist who don’t deserve that label. They may feel the SBC has already demonstrated their openness to reaching all nations and races with the Gospel.

For the record, I voted for the statement (I think it was back in the 1990s) apologizing for the racism of many of our SBC forefathers. Race is a non issue in my predominately white church and we have, or have had members and regular attenders that are black, Hispanic, etc.

The same goes for the GCRTF Report. Those who may vote against it are certainly not against the Great Commission.

On the other hand, I’m pretty sure a resolution against racism was not what was referred to as “stupid.” But for anyone who has been to a few SBCs, they know that imprudent comments and resolutions do get made. And then there are reporters and bloggers who use those ignorant statements or proposed resolutions to paint the entire SBC that way.

One last thing. Motions and resolutions that get referred to committees are not necessarily a bad thing. Moving slow and deliberately is not all bad. Otherwise, the SBC could be radically changing course ever year or two and with every whim or fad.
David R. Brumbelow

David Worley

David B. has spoken very wisely in the above comment…very wisely indeed.

David

selahV (hariette petersen)

Grosey! Wow! What a wonderful opportunity. Will pray more Christians are called to teach high school so they can share the gospel. What a perfect choice to lead in this ministry. I am grateful God has chosen you. Know that I will be praying for you. We need more missionaries who are teachers to go “down under” and help lead your young people to Christ. selahV

as to the questions: not going. the rest is up to ya’ll.

Christiane

“It may be hard for an egg to turn into a bird: it would be a jolly sight harder for a bird to learn to fly while remaining an egg. We are like eggs at present. And you cannot go on indefinitely being just an ordinary, decent egg. We must be hatched or go bad.”
— C.S. Lewis (Mere Christianity)

There comes a point when it is time to reflect the glory of the Lord in all that you do, or to decide not to.

Don’t miss the moment.
Don’t miss the opportunity.

We are limited in our days. We must spend them wisely, yes.
But we must not waste them by taking for granted that there will always be another day to right a wrong.

If you KNOW what is right and true, don’t postpone doing it, but embrace it as ‘Christ-honoring’, and light a candle for others to see in His Holy Name.

Do not be overwhelmed by your OWN wisdom: seek the way of the Lord Who is the One you will encounter at the end of that way.
And move forward, in the Spirit of Christ, with faith, and hope, and love.

And fear not.

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