Comments for SBC Today http://sbctoday.com A forum for Baptists to dialogue about how best to fulfill God’s calling in our lives. Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:52:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 Comment on SBC Name Change News by Chris Crain http://sbctoday.com/2012/02/21/sbc-name-change-news/#comment-18819 Chris Crain Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:52:21 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=6986#comment-18819 The word "commission" to outsiders sounds political. We do NOT need to foster that connotation. Just Google the word and you'll understand my concern. The word “commission” to outsiders sounds political. We do NOT need to foster that connotation. Just Google the word and you’ll understand my concern.

]]> Comment on SBC Name Change News by Lucian Rudd http://sbctoday.com/2012/02/21/sbc-name-change-news/#comment-18818 Lucian Rudd Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:23:39 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=6986#comment-18818 What's with all this name change stuff .... I've been around a long time. Licensed over 60 years ago ... Southern Baptist Convention is known worldwide ... We've changed about everything through the years and nothing was really "helped." Hurray for BYPU! Maybe we should go back to some of these things and names. BTW ... 82 and still preaching ... back in the pastorate last December. What’s with all this name change stuff …. I’ve been around a long time. Licensed over 60 years ago … Southern Baptist Convention is known worldwide … We’ve changed about everything through the years and nothing was really “helped.” Hurray for BYPU! Maybe we should go back to some of these things and names. BTW … 82 and still preaching … back in the pastorate last December.

]]> Comment on BREAKING NEWS ON THE SBC NAME CHANGE by Max http://sbctoday.com/2012/02/20/breaking-news-on-the-sbc-name-change/#comment-18814 Max Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:02:45 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=6977#comment-18814 “The task force understands this proposal to be a fairly innocuous change, one that is a “win-win” for both those who want to retain the historic Southern Baptist Convention name, and for those who want a more contemporary and non-regional name.” Doesn’t this measure have the potential to divide SBC ranks? As you note, on one hand there will be those “who want to retain the historic”, while those “who want a more contemporary” move forward separately. Until recent years, historic and contemporary flowed together for the cause of Christ. We used to accommodate both under the same umbrella - after all, Jesus is the eternal contemporary. In my area, this development was welcomed with open arms by young, restless and reformed (YRR) church planters. Their social media is abuzz today with great joy, while the silent majority is still largely silent. Perhaps YRR church planters have simply been handed a compromise from SBC leadership - even though they didn't really need it since they have been using cool church names not describing affiliation for years. Some of us are still trying to assess where the denominational “win-win” is in this. Is this really about “Southern”? “The task force understands this proposal to be a fairly innocuous change, one that is a “win-win” for both those who want to retain the historic Southern Baptist Convention name, and for those who want a more contemporary and non-regional name.”

Doesn’t this measure have the potential to divide SBC ranks? As you note, on one hand there will be those “who want to retain the historic”, while those “who want a more contemporary” move forward separately. Until recent years, historic and contemporary flowed together for the cause of Christ. We used to accommodate both under the same umbrella – after all, Jesus is the eternal contemporary.

In my area, this development was welcomed with open arms by young, restless and reformed (YRR) church planters. Their social media is abuzz today with great joy, while the silent majority is still largely silent. Perhaps YRR church planters have simply been handed a compromise from SBC leadership – even though they didn’t really need it since they have been using cool church names not describing affiliation for years. Some of us are still trying to assess where the denominational “win-win” is in this. Is this really about “Southern”?

]]> Comment on BREAKING NEWS ON THE SBC NAME CHANGE by volfan007 http://sbctoday.com/2012/02/20/breaking-news-on-the-sbc-name-change/#comment-18810 volfan007 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:59:26 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=6977#comment-18810 I just read a great quote that pretty well sums all of this name change stuff up pretty well… As someone once said: “The mountain labored, and gave forth a mouse”. David I just read a great quote that pretty well sums all of this name change stuff up pretty well…

As someone once said: “The mountain labored, and gave forth a mouse”.

David

]]> Comment on BREAKING NEWS ON THE SBC NAME CHANGE by Chris http://sbctoday.com/2012/02/20/breaking-news-on-the-sbc-name-change/#comment-18809 Chris Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:08:30 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=6977#comment-18809 Man. Some people on here are just looking to complain about anything. This is a helpful compromise, allowing those who love the traditional name to hold onto it while those who feel it is harmful or confusing in ministry to refer to the SBC as something else. What's the problem exactly? If they had proposed no change these critics would be on here saying, "Yeah guys. I told you so. Thanks for wasting my CP money." If they had proposed a complete change, the same people would be bemoaning the inevitable decline of the convention, nay, even the gospel itself! (hyperbole intended) Man. Some people on here are just looking to complain about anything. This is a helpful compromise, allowing those who love the traditional name to hold onto it while those who feel it is harmful or confusing in ministry to refer to the SBC as something else. What’s the problem exactly?

If they had proposed no change these critics would be on here saying, “Yeah guys. I told you so. Thanks for wasting my CP money.” If they had proposed a complete change, the same people would be bemoaning the inevitable decline of the convention, nay, even the gospel itself! (hyperbole intended)

]]> Comment on BREAKING NEWS ON THE SBC NAME CHANGE by Kenny Heath http://sbctoday.com/2012/02/20/breaking-news-on-the-sbc-name-change/#comment-18808 Kenny Heath Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:41:48 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=6977#comment-18808 Here in Appalachia, as well as in many of the rural areas of the US I have contact with, this issue of considering a name-change is not an issue. Most of our churches do not see the name \"Southern Baptist\" as very important to their identity; they do see what Southern Baptists do(evangelism, missions) as very important to their identity. So, although this may be helpful to other parts of the kingdom, a lot of us rural types see matters of potential name-changing as irrelevant to our serving the Lord in our part of His Kingdom. In the past couple decades, rarely has the viewpoint of smaller, rural SBC churches been represented at the table of SBC planning. We often feel alienated from the denomination. Hence, in many ways, we rural Southern Baptists are finding ways to get the work done that don\'t run through Nashville. We\'d rather that it be in partnership with Nashville, but we need an invitation to be part(and, no, that doesn\'t mean just voting on it at the SBC annual meeting) of the goings-on, in order to be partners. SBC leadership---this great divide, to us, is far more important than a name change. Will you help us address it? Here in Appalachia, as well as in many of the rural areas of the US I have contact with, this issue of considering a name-change is not an issue. Most of our churches do not see the name \”Southern Baptist\” as very important to their identity; they do see what Southern Baptists do(evangelism, missions) as very important to their identity. So, although this may be helpful to other parts of the kingdom, a lot of us rural types see matters of potential name-changing as irrelevant to our serving the Lord in our part of His Kingdom.
In the past couple decades, rarely has the viewpoint of smaller, rural SBC churches been represented at the table of SBC planning. We often feel alienated from the denomination. Hence, in many ways, we rural Southern Baptists are finding ways to get the work done that don\’t run through Nashville. We\’d rather that it be in partnership with Nashville, but we need an invitation to be part(and, no, that doesn\’t mean just voting on it at the SBC annual meeting) of the goings-on, in order to be partners.
SBC leadership—this great divide, to us, is far more important than a name change. Will you help us address it?

]]> Comment on BREAKING NEWS ON THE SBC NAME CHANGE by Randy Everist http://sbctoday.com/2012/02/20/breaking-news-on-the-sbc-name-change/#comment-18806 Randy Everist Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:13:22 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=6977#comment-18806 I think the commission was right to represent the interests of all of its members, and not just the "progressive" ones. You come off as awfully judgmental. I think the commission was right to represent the interests of all of its members, and not just the “progressive” ones. You come off as awfully judgmental.

]]> Comment on BREAKING NEWS ON THE SBC NAME CHANGE by Justin http://sbctoday.com/2012/02/20/breaking-news-on-the-sbc-name-change/#comment-18799 Justin Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:47:49 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=6977#comment-18799 The Southern Baptist Convention of Great Commission Baptists? What a bunch of nonsense. I am a Southern Baptist ministering in Japan, and I doubt much consideration was given to the nonsensical nature of the name to non-American populations in the foreign mission realm. Politics has reigned supreme with this decision, as a group of political Baptist leaders was unable to let go of a name that pins the convention to a place and time of the past. If you focus squarely on the Gospel moving FORWARD to the ends of the earth and the hubris of Baptist politics and the ungodly pride in tradition of the past should fade away. The Southern Baptist Convention of Great Commission Baptists? What a bunch of nonsense. I am a Southern Baptist ministering in Japan, and I doubt much consideration was given to the nonsensical nature of the name to non-American populations in the foreign mission realm. Politics has reigned supreme with this decision, as a group of political Baptist leaders was unable to let go of a name that pins the convention to a place and time of the past. If you focus squarely on the Gospel moving FORWARD to the ends of the earth and the hubris of Baptist politics and the ungodly pride in tradition of the past should fade away.

]]> Comment on BREAKING NEWS ON THE SBC NAME CHANGE by volfan007 http://sbctoday.com/2012/02/20/breaking-news-on-the-sbc-name-change/#comment-18796 volfan007 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:02:49 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=6977#comment-18796 Rick, ;) David Rick,

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David

]]> Comment on BREAKING NEWS ON THE SBC NAME CHANGE by Rick http://sbctoday.com/2012/02/20/breaking-news-on-the-sbc-name-change/#comment-18794 Rick Tue, 21 Feb 2012 04:28:09 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=6977#comment-18794 I like the proposal, but will there be literature separately printed that will use the name "Great Commission Baptists"? I like the proposal, but will there be literature separately printed that will use the name “Great Commission Baptists”?

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