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		<title>Podcast Episode 9</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Entity head retirements are the main topic of discussion in this week&#8217;s podcast. The entire gang got together to discuss the implications of the retirement announcements of Dr. Jerry Rankin of the International Mission Board and Dr. Morris Chapman of the Executive Committee. Robin Foster was headed out of town for a quick vacation, which [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=274683577"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1398" title="podcast logo" src="http://sbctoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/podcast-logo.jpg" alt="podcast logo" width="183" height="183" /></a>Entity head retirements are the main topic of discussion in this week&#8217;s podcast. The entire gang got together to discuss the implications of the retirement announcements of Dr. Jerry Rankin of the International Mission Board and Dr. Morris Chapman of the Executive Committee. Robin Foster was headed out of town for a quick vacation, which explains the unusual amount of background noise.</p>
<p>Listen to the podcast using the player below, or click the logo or sidebar icon to be taken to our iTunes page. After you subscribe to the podcast, do us the favor of writing a short review on iTunes, or just give us a star rating. These will help us greatly, and we appreciate it. Comment here with suggestions for how we can improve the podcast. And, as always, thanks for listening. We continue to add new listeners each week, and we&#8217;re grateful that you take the time.</p>
<p>Here are some links that came up during this week&#8217;s conversation:</p>
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<li><a href="http://bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=31262" target="_blank">IMB leader Jerry Rankin announces retirement</a></li>
<li><a href="http://bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=31306" target="_blank">Morris H. Chapman announces Executive Committee retirement</a></li>
<li><a href="http://sbcvoices.com/diverse-voices-debate-is-church-oversight-essential-for-baptism/" target="_blank">Blog debate on baptism</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.jerryvines.com/pages/the-acts-111-conference/" target="_blank">The Acts 1:11 Conference</a></li>
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		<itunes:summary>Entity head retirements are the main topic of discussion in this week's podcast. The entire gang got together to discuss the implications of the retirement announcements of Dr. Jerry Rankin of the International Mission Board and Dr. Morris Chapman of the Executive Committee. Robin Foster was headed out of town for a quick vacation, which explains the unusual amount of background noise.

Listen to the podcast using the player below, or click the logo or sidebar icon to be taken to our iTunes page. After you subscribe to the podcast, do us the favor of writing a short review on iTunes, or just give us a star rating. These will help us greatly, and we appreciate it. Comment here with suggestions for how we can improve the podcast. And, as always, thanks for listening. We continue to add new listeners each week, and we're grateful that you take the time.

Here are some links that came up during this week's conversation:

	IMB leader Jerry Rankin announces retirement
	Morris H. Chapman announces Executive Committee retirement
	Blog debate on baptism
	The Acts 1:11 Conference
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		<title>Misunderstandings, Monikers, and Misrepresentations Part 3:  Reflections of an Under 40 Pastor in the SBC</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let no one look down on your youthfulness, but rather in speech, conduct, love, faith and purity, show yourself an example of those who believe. 1 Timothy 4:12 NASB. The words that resound from the mouth of the young pastor today are often a lament that, due to their age, they are not taken seriously. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Let no one look down on your youthfulness, but rather in speech, conduct, love, faith and purity, show yourself an example of those who believe. </em>1 Timothy 4:12 NASB.</p>
<p>The words that resound from the mouth of the young pastor today are often a lament that, due to their age, they are not taken seriously. Casting stones at the generation that has gone before, the young pastor lambastes the outdated practices of a foregone generation. Pleading for respect, the impetuousness bred into a generation that seeks to live in the culture of immediate satisfaction demands a seat at the table now and not later. If those pleas for immediate attention go unheeded, they threaten to abandon the ship in favor of a raft thinking it will provide much more ease of control and rapidity of movement. However, arriving at the shore quicker may lose its advantage if the cargo is disproportionate to what is required to sustain those who the vessel has brought.</p>
<p><span id="more-1189"></span>Perhaps the concern of the generation that has gone before is simply that once we reach our destination, our cargo may prove to be quite disappointing, even inadequate. Paul had written young Timothy two letters to remind him of precisely what is important. Apparently, Timothy was facing significant opposition that entailed concerns in regards to his age. Whatever age Timothy was (Interestingly, Guthrie says he could be up to age 40) is of less importance than the truths which Paul communicates to Timothy. Respect is gained through lifestyle, not demand.</p>
<p>If we heed Paul&#8217;s words to Timothy as our own, we must understand that there is a certain ministerial ethic that is demanded of us before respect can be demanded for us. Here, Paul lists five necessities for Timothy to follow if he will gain the respect of the older generation.</p>
<p>First, Timothy is to practice a ministerial ethic that is evident in his manner of speech. Though this includes Timothy&#8217;s official actions in preaching and teaching, it does not limit it to such. Timothy&#8217;s day to day speech is as important as his official activities as pastor.</p>
<p>One prominent blog in recent weeks contained a post asking the question, &#8220;Do potty-mouthed preachers belong in the SBC?&#8221; This post was complete with videos of differing views of this recent phenomenon. One in particular sought to simply dismiss &#8220;curse-words&#8221; as nothing more than cultural mores that are impositions upon a person&#8217;s freedom of speech. Essentially, in his idea, the only reason a curse word is a curse word is because culture has defined it as such.</p>
<p>Whatever the linguistic development of such words happen to be is irrelevant. The culture, by and large, sees such language as offensive. A pastor need not utilize offensive language to either shock an audience into attention or make a connection with an audience by removing the barriers. In essence, for a pastor to use what is culturally agreed upon as gutter language is to communicate that a person can come to Christ with no change of their heart producing a change of speech. I have ministered to people from many different walks of life in many different cultures and not once have they been offended because my language was different than theirs. As a matter of fact, they seemed to have the idea that my language SHOULD be different than theirs. Timothy was instructed to gain the respect of the senior generation by practicing a ministerial ethic that is revealed, at least in part, by his speech.</p>
<p>Secondly, Timothy was told to have a visible conduct that earned respect. Legalism is often the charge that is leveled at the ones who ask for a life that demonstrates nobility. Paul uses the verbal form of this word for conduct in 3:15 of this same epistle so that Timothy would know how to act in the household of God which is the community of faith. The use of the word as a noun is translated elsewhere as &#8220;manner of life&#8221; in some translations.</p>
<p>Suffice it to say that Paul was calling Timothy to understand that, should he gain the respect of the people, he will do so by the visible walk that he has. Thus, the command is not one of legalism, but one of witness. If Timothy will conduct himself in the manner worthy of a minister, he will gain the respect of those who surround him.</p>
<p>The charge of legalism is most often leveled at the contemporary debate concerning alcohol consumption among Christians. Some pastors have argued for moderate consumption of alcohol in recent days. Newspapers regularly carry reports of churches willing to buy the first round in order to gain an opportunity to meet the people.</p>
<p>Of course, it will be quickly pointed out that Timothy was instructed to take a little wine for his stomach. There are men much more adept at arguing the meaning of that passage than am I, thus I will simply refer you to them. Mine is a simpler question. Why? Alcohol is an industry that is responsible for more abuses, adulteries, and deaths than anything else. So, why? Why do some insist on its consumption? Why? Do we really think we can fulfill the Great Commission more efficiently if we endorse moderate drinking? Will it really make us more relevant to reach a culture steeped in drink if we join in with them? Is there really one person out there who would not have come to Christ if the pastor had not joined in drinking a glass of wine? So why argue for it? Why?</p>
<p>Thirdly, Paul instructed Timothy to have a ministerial ethic that demonstrated itself in love. The first two qualities focused on the outward nature of the minister, this one begins a focus on the inner nature of the minister. Allow me simply to say that our love must not only be demonstrated for the lost of the world, but also must be demonstrated for the generation of the saved before us. It is true that doctrinal errors have been made in the past. It is true that methodological failures have occurred. But the only difference between theirs and ours is that our errors haven&#8217;t all come to the surface. I am unaware of any of the generation that precedes this one who is claiming inerrancy for themselves. Let us be warned, love heeds wisdom.</p>
<p>Fourth, Timothy is told that gaining respect from an older generation requires exemplifying faith. Ours is a tradition that champions faithfulness over popularity. The Anabaptists sought to worship freely in accordance to a full obedience to the Bible. The English separatists sought free worship without state mandated restrictions. The Conservative Resurgence generation has stated that in the early days, they did not expect success. There is at least one common thread that bound all of these together. Their measure of success was primarily faithfulness to God&#8217;s word, and secondarily numerical increase; and only then as more of a blessing of God than a concoction of man.</p>
<p>Many of the under 40 movement are demanding a voice with more appeals to their creativity and natural ability than to an active demonstration of faith. Faith is not simply an inward state of belief, but it is an outward action. In other words, faith is observable. It demonstrates loyalty to the Lord. As a matter of fact, the New English Translation translates this word as &#8220;faithfulness.&#8221; As my colleagues walk in faithfulness to the Lord, I have no doubt that those who have risked much for the rescue of a Convention will not prohibit the passing of the baton at the appropriate time, but will be excited to have the opportunity to do so.</p>
<p>Finally, Timothy is told that by living a pure life, the senior generation will be moved to respect. Towner says that this word corresponds primarily to the sexual nature of mankind. Through the demonstration of sexual purity, Timothy will demonstrate himself worthy of leading the church into the next generation.</p>
<p>The contemporary church finds itself in the difficult situation of a sexually saturated culture that desperately needs a word from God. Homosexuality is gaining in acceptance, fornication has become the norm, and pornography is much of the world&#8217;s entertainment. The job of the church is to lift high the beauty of the marriage bed while speaking prophetically against the lusts of the world. Pornography has no justification regardless of the context in which it is utilized.</p>
<p>For a minister to fail to reflect an ethic that is in line with a message of holiness for the sake of cultural connection is to invite antinomianism to rest on our front door. One day we will emerge thinking the animal is at rest, only to find that in our emergence, we have seasoned ourselves with the sugar of compromise, making us a delightful dessert indeed.</p>
<p>Respect is a by-product of the ethic that seeks to be an example. It is not a demand that is gained because of position, prominence, or ability. If the young pastor will consistently demonstrate a ministerial ethic that seeks to exemplify Christian conduct and faith, he need not demand a place at the table, for someone will reserve one for him.</p>
<p>Interaction with this blog is at <a href="www.johnbmann.blogspot.com">www.johnbmann.blogspot.com. </a></p>
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