It appears that Baylor will name Kenneth Starr, former special prosecutor, to lead Baylor. We point you to the Associated Baptist Press article for this information. We add that no one from Baylor has confirmed these reports. According to the Waco Tribune, Starr has said he will join a Baptist Church after he is employed at Baylor.
If this is the case then we will have an Evangelical with a Church of Christ background leading a Baptist institution. I must admit, Texas Baptist seemingly appreciate their scriptural doctrine as they like their food, all mixed up. Once again we have another church member becoming a Baptist because of convenience. I wish Dr. Kenneth Starr the best, but this is another example of becoming a Baptist because it suits a particular need instead of it being a conviction of the soul.
This is not only incredible, but is also unbelievable. A Church of Christ fella leading a “BAPTIST” school?????!!!!?????
I’d say that this takes the cake.
David
Tim Rogers:
I am shocked that you are not pleased with this announcement.
Brother Tom,
Glad to know that I “shocked” you. However, please do not take my disagreement as something that does not please me. If you will remember, the last president was forced out of Baylor because he took such a conservative stand. I am going to watch this train wreck from the side of the tracks.
But, allow me to follow up on my comment. It seems that we are getting more and more people to be “baptist” that are doing so out of convenience instead of conviction. That is my only concern in this entire matter.
Blessings,
Tim
Brother Tim,
It appears baptisms may be making a rebound at Baylor, under the leadership of their trustees.
Ken is a popular guys these days though…maybe someone should find out if he has changed his mind on the efficacy of baptism in Justification. Sometimes it takes a significant doctrinal stabbing to get the wounded dogs attention.
Blessings,
Chris
Brother David,
His wife is Jewish and he is Church of Christ. I can’t wait to see how the church they join explain why they accepted their baptism, or lack of one.
Blessings,
Tim
Tim,
From the article,….sounds like he may have changed his mind about baptismal regeneration. That would be good! Surely he will take this opportunity to share the gospel against the heresy of baptismal regeneration.
Blessings,
Chris
Yea, Tim, that will be something to see. Will the Baptist Church they decide to join accept them without being baptised in a Baptist Church, especially with him being a Church of Christ, and his wife is Jewish?
David
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Brother Chris,
Maybe I am missing something, but for the life of me, I cannot see where the article reveals he has changed his mind on baptismal regeneration. Could you help me? If however, you are referring to the time he spent a McClean Bible Church I must admit their position is very sound and much like any SBC church you can find. However, you have to look hard to find their statement on “Baptism”. Shoot, after looking through that document of what they believe I may be charged with plagiarism :) They are resoundingly cessasionist in their doctrine and they are Pre-Mil in their eschatology.
Blessings,
Tim
Tim,
The Church of Christ folks I know around here are highly separatist and would not set foot in a church like McLean for fear of being excommunicated.
I’m not trying to defend the guy….I don’t know anything about his beliefs. Maybe he will share those in the future.
Blessings,
Chris
-Chris
I think this is a good thing. Now, more Baptists will send their kids to Samford because we have an “all” Baptist president and wife here at our university.
If more Baptist come here, Alabama revenue will grow. We will have more money in our state. Then we can go out and hire new coaches for baseball and basketball like we did for football here in the SABANATION. Then we will win the Big Three in the SEC. Then we will be the Kings of sports in the whole world just like we are already Kings of the SBC in the whole world.
Man!! Just think! If Ken Starr had only been a Hindu, Alabama might have been able to become an Empire like Rome or Babylon.
Oh, well. You can’t have everything.
A couple of quick comments:
First, it is my understanding that Starr has not been affiliated with CoC since his teen years. His father was a minister in CoC but Starr left that tradition either in high school or college.
Second, my understanding again is that his wife is of “Jewish background” but is a Christian. They were for over a decade members of McLean Bible Church, an evangelical megachurch pastored by a leading figure in the Jews for Jesus movement. So, that might explain why they chose McLean.
Starr will be introduced to Faculty/Staff/Graduate Students tomorrow at 3pm.
As an aside, there have been many names floated around in the last month or two about potential candidates. Of the four names most often heard, two are prominent Southern Baptists and one recently addressed the Southern Baptist Convention. I have no inside knowledge but if I were a betting man (and I am every now and again), I’d say that one of those Southern Baptists mentioned was seriously considered by the committee…
My anti-spam word is self-control so I’ll leave y’all for a bit.
BDW,
If what you say is correct and I have no reason to doubt it, then I am more impressed by the committee to bring in Starr than I have been in Baylor in a while.
Let’s assume that you are correct. Look at the articles that released this information. Very plainly it state that his wife is “Jewish”. That could mean that she is from a Jewish background as much as it could mean that she is a practicing Jew.
But, thanks for your clarification. It does seem that you are excited they chose Starr. Could it be your excitement that he clerked with Justice Burger?
Blessings,
Tim
Brother Tim,
I know Joe Stewart, and he is a convictional Baptist. Still one in Texas out there, maybe more… :)
I do miss the mexican food in Texas as well…it is not quite the same here in Tennessee, but they try hard.
Blessings,
Chris
I could be wrong about his wife. The Waco Trib article says that she was “raised Jewish.” I can’t imagine that an adherent to Judaism would enjoy sitting in a pew listening to sermons preached by a “Jew for Jesus.”
I definitely would not use the word “excited” but I’m also not banging my head on the door and denouncing my degree as valueless like some are on Facebook…
Brother Chris,
I like the tex-mex out there too. However, I am sure your remembered, as Brother Bart pointed out on BDW’s blog, Dr. Lilly was a Presbyterian elder. How can a school say they are maintaining their integrity as Baptist and place a PCUSA at their helm?
BDW,
Wouldn’t you agree that, whether conservative, moderate, or liberal, we are seeing more and more people coming into Baptist life leadership positions that are not Baptist and merely join Baptist churches in order to keep others for saying they are not Baptist?
Blessings,
Tim
BDW,
One more question. What do you perceive would happen if Starr joined a SBTC church?
Blessings,
Tim
Tim,
I’ll hazard a guess at an answer to that last question for Aaron:
1. He’d have to drive to Dallas from Waco to find an SBTC church. The Waco Baptist Association keeps on retainer those folks who are burning down churches in East Texas to deal with any SBTC congregations in McLennan County. ;-) (That’s a JOKE folks)
2. As compared to the hypothetical prospect of his joining an SBTC church, Starr would catch less flak for joining the Branch Davidians. ;-)
I don’t think any of the large Baptist churches in Waco are affiliated with the SBTC. I got $5 says that he’ll join FBC Waco. If not FBC, then Columbus Avenue. But the president has traditionally been a member of FBC.
In light of the fact that Baylor has hired a Presbyterian Elder and now a Non-denominational Evangelical as their last two presidents, I think it makes sense – in terms of integrity – for the Board of Regents to rescind the rule requiring the President to be Baptist. That would signal an honest reflection of what Baylor has become over the years, a distinctly Christian University with rich roots in the Baptist tradition.
Brother Tim,
I’m not saying Baylor has a good track record on things like this of late…. I was just wondering what this new guy really believes. I’m curious if he will play the politics of it all,….or express the gospel of God with clarity!
Blessings,
Chris
Tim,
You stated that Baylor’s previous president was forced out because “he took too conservative of a stand”. Could you explain that one further, please. On what particular issue(s) was John Lily considered too conservative by the Baylor regents?
Also, I realize you addressed your question to BDW, but what would happen if he joined an SBTC church? Probably the same thing that would happen if a new president at Criswell College or Jacksonville Missionary Baptist College joined a BGCT church. Many people would point out that the president of an institution ought to be affiliated with a church that supports the institution. And rightly so. I realize you were attempting to make some kind of point with the question, I just can’t imagine what it might have been.
The more I think about it, the more I wish he was a Hindu. Samford would mop up with Baptist kids enrolling.
I’ll tell you boys another thing.
You better tell Les not to send Ken Starr any emails in his first year. I don’t know if a Rookie president could handle Wade coming to rescue him or not. It might be more than he could “bear”
Brother BDW,
I will not bet $5 because I am not a betting man. But, I will say, if Starr is as devout in his Faith as the Bible Church in Virginia is I will buy you a cup of coffee from Starbucks if gets along well in either of those churches you just named. :)
Brother Stuart,
I am sorry, and thank you for asking the question. I got Dr. Lily mixed up with Dr. Sloan. You are right, Dr. Lily was fired for….er, I forgot. Was it he was a Presbyterian? (Just Kidding!) No, from what I remember, Dr. Lily was terminated because he wanted to do away with tenure. Or, at the least, he was making it harder to get tenured at Baylor. Dr. Sloan was forced to the door because he was bringing in more conservative scholars. Dr. Sloan have a grand vision that would have made Baylor the Harvard of the South.
Blessings,
Tim
BDW,
You and I were thinking the same thing. I just blogged as much. It goes contrary to Baptist voluntarism for us to be coercing these men into Baptist churches. And it degrades us (Baptist churches) to put on a display of being so desperate for membership and leadership.
Tim,
I have to disagree with you, my brother. Harvard is the Baylor of the Northeast.
But ALABAMA won the national championship.
The academic stuff don’t much matter
I have yet to meet a Church of Christ person who won’t look at you funny if you don’t use the word “inerrant” when speaking of Scripture. None of the ones I know drink alcohol and it would be blasphemy for anyone with ovaries to proclaim the word of God in one of their pulpits. We all know Starr would never think of using crass language or inuendo in an email exchange or when posting on a message board. Isn’t this the type of person that the SBC has been dreaming about to lead Baylor for years now?
Brother Craig,
I don’t think the SBC has had a dream about Baylor since the 1990′s.
Blessings,
Tim
Tim,
As one who was on record as being of one of Dr. Sloan’s firm supporters, I think I knew who you meant. I also think you oversimplify his departure a bit. I hope that you also can see that, regardless of Starr’s childhood affiliations, this hire represents a better chance to carry out the Sloan-era Vision 2012 initiatives than if they had hired a “lifelong Baptist” with a vision for Baylor’s future built upon its pre-1996 past.
Brother CB,
You have been rattling your sword for some time now and no one has raised sabers with you. Since you called for this dance, I believe I will go ahead and punch your card.
When Samford adopts the BF&M 2K then you will have a plausible defense for that grand ole institution. One whose purpose statement in 1841 was for “the establishment of a theological institution” and it was in 1988 before they established a theological institution. While you Brothers in Ala got your “theological institution” on it took over 100 years before you could put one in place. Now, some could look at the time line of the establishment of Beeson and look at the time line of the SBC and conclude that the Moderates were placing a Moderate School of Divinity in place.
Blessings,
Tim
I think Vision 2012 would have been in great hands had that “interim” tag been removed from Dr. Garland’s title. He’s a life-long Baptist, pretty sure, right?
BDW,
I wasn’t thinking of Garland and wouldn’t disagree with you. A previous interim president, though…..
Once again a conservative is not conservative enough for some conservatives.
Tim,
As a native of the East Texas area, which is a mecca of SBT churches, I think I would have to disagree that the SBC has not had a dream about Baylor since the 1990′s. Perhaps they have had no hope for Baylor, but most of the SBT pastors I know can’t go two minutes in a conversation about denominational polity without obsessing about Baylor.
I think the presence of this post is also a bit of proof that you may be mistaken.
Craig.
BDW,
You will not get any argument from me concerning Dr. Garland’s Baptist heritage. I will admit his exposition of Scripture is a little too loose. However, he would fit in well at Baylor’s helm.
Brother Craig,
The only interest I have in Baylor is the same interest I have in the NC Baptist Schools here in NC. They have chosen to leave the NCBSC and then try to tell everyone they are Baptist. However, just as Baylor, our historic Baptist school Wake Forest chose to go the same direction of Baylor. The only interest that is left is the interest that they do what they say they believe.
Blessings,
Tim
For those who think we are being hard,
It seems that Mr Starr went to University Church of Christ while he was at Pepperdine. Notice some of the comments from this article, which comes from the international Churches of Christ magazine, The Christian Chronicle:
It is indeed sad news to hear bro. Starr is choosing to “join” a Baptist church. One can be added only to the Lord’s church and no other. (Acts 2:47) Please, bro. Starr, reconsider the inspired words of Paul of “becoming unequally yoked with un-believers.” (II Corinthians 5:20 – 6:16 in context) No one has been, or ever will be, saved by the so-called “sinner’s prayer.”—Russ McCullough, Archdale church of Christ
How tragic and sad that Mr. Starr will “join” a Baptist church for this job. I can’t imagine a job worth leaving The Church.–Darlene Beeler Farmington Church of CHrist
I find it inappropriate that you inserted the word “but” in the paragraph declaring that Mr. Starr would worship at a Baptist church. It is this type of self-righteous attitude that has turned people outside the chruch of Christ off for so very long. How about focusing on the fact that this good man can now provide a positive religious influence on a college campus of 14,000 students without the judgmental journalism.–Tom Norrell Union Hill Church of Christ
Does anyone now want to argue that Church of Christ doesn’t believe in Baptismal Regeneration and one coming from a Church of Christ background into a Baptist church does not believe the same?
Blessings,
Tim
Tim Rogers,
I want you to know we, in Alabama have:
the KJV,
B-B-Q,
A completely Baptist legislature,
Our own seminary,
The two only true Baptist Universities in the United States, Mexico and Canada,
Our own and the only Baptist college for women in the United States, Mexico and Canada,
Nick Saban,
The University of Alabama,
More national championships than any other FOOTBALL NATION
And tonight, we even have our own snow.
We don’t need the BFM 2000 or the BFM of any other year. Brother, we are the Baptist Faith and Message in the flesh.
All we need is for Texas to split again so we can get the rest of its Baptist money. Then we can become an Empire unto ourselves as is our Manifest Destiny to do so.
Your insinuation that Baylor is not Baptist is quite humorous. Most people I talk to around here (Waco, that is) complain that Baylor is TOO Baptist. Of course, I believe these people have a rather narrow view of what it means to be Baptist… kind of like most of the leadership in the SBC.
I can understand picking Starr. School presidents are often no more than glorified fundraisers, and a big name like Starr will generate plenty of cash. But a Baptist school that claims to be educating the next generation of Baptist leaders, must have a Baptist president. (And for Starr to join a Baptist church just because it’s required by his new employer is simply despicable.)
My Baptist Identity friends,
This is excellent news.
I have heard Ken Starr preach on a number of ocassions, once at coral ridge in fort lauderdale!
I can assure you he is soundly evangelical.
2.This is like the times Lifeway has events at Liscomp here in Nashville instead of the more pagan like \”baptist\” university Belmont.
Go ken Go
Robert I Masters
from the Southern Baptist Geneva
David Worley,
the Real Baptist were not AnaBaptist so already you have strayed from what a real Baptist is!!!!!!!
SDG
Robert I Masters
The thing that bothers me in this thread (other than a Church of Christ gentleman being hired to lead a Baptist university) is the fact that there are so many adamant Baptists who seem unaware that the plural form of “Baptist” demands the use of an “s.” :)
Brother Craig,
Less I be misunderstood I would like to make one statement that may help in this post. I am not against Ken Starr becoming the next President of Baylor. They are an autonomous body and can certainly choose who/whom they desire. I believe that Starr will be good for Baylor and they will grow under his leadership, both financially and in student count. My contention is bringing in someone who was raised as a Church of Christ, joined a Bible Church, then went back to a Church of Christ. Now, he is hired by Baylor and forced to be a Baptist, merely by joining a Baptist Church. Let me say it very simple. Joining a Baptist church does not make one a Baptist any more than going into McDonalds make on a french fry. :)
Brother Glen,
You have stated it very well.
Brother Robert,
Please see my comment to Brother Craig. I do not believe anyone has said this would be bad for Baylor. I believe it is a good day for a conservative resurgence in Baylor.
Brother Geoff,
I am sorry that we Baptists do not write well enough to suit your Baptist beliefs. :)
Blessings,
Tim
I’m just sayin’ … all of these masters degrees floating around in here and all. ;)
That would be Masters of Degree. Kinda Like Mothers-in-Law, rather than Mothers-in-Laws. :-)
Mr Baggett,
Correction duly noted.
Thanks
Robert I Masters
Were better at government in Geneva rather then grammar or spelling!!!!!!
Robert,
In your comment #42, I’m scratching my head…wondering why you wrote that to me. Please explain.
David
I want to say that I also agree that having Ken Starr may not be a bad choice for a university to have as their President. But, when what’s supposed to be a Baptist school hires a non Baptist to lead it???? And then, he just casually states that he will join a Baptist Church in order to be hired?????
Also, I’m surprised that Baylor would go after someone, who seems to be very conservative. This cant be sitting well with Big Daddy Weave and other liberals in the CBF and Baylor community. Is it?
David
Everyone,
According to this article, Starr is articulating his desire to learn about Baylor’s Baptist heritage along with what we Baptists understand about the doctrine of Baptism. I commend him on this.
However, he still has a way to go to understand Baptist Ecclesiology. Just learning Baptismology (Geoff, I know that is not a word) is not sufficient. The Ecclesiology of the Churches of Christ is they are the one true church. Note the statements of Churches of Christ members above in comment #37.
Blessings,
Tim
“However, he still has a way to go to understand Baptist Ecclesiology.”
Tim,
If that is your concern, you should put it to rest.
There are a lot of Southern Baptist trained pastors who do not understand “Baptist Ecclesiology.” (Do you not read blogs and comment threads?) And they are not even making an effort to learn. At least Ken Starr is going to make an effort to learn.
But, thinking about who would make a good president for Baylor, there is another “Starr” that might make an excellent president:
Bart Starr. he lead Green Bay to greatness and he learned it all at ALABAMA. Maybe if Bart Starr became president at Baylor the Bears would cease to be the Baylor “Cubs” of the FOOTBALL NATIONS.
If Bart Starr became president of Baylor, he might make “Bart” Barber Provost.
Then it would be the Baylor Bears lead by the Baylor Barts.
Given the Baptist virtue of autonomy that you mention, a certain church may have members who hold to vastly different beliefs about Baptist distinctives that what is dictated by a given Baptist body. With this in mind, I believe choosing to join a Baptist church does, in fact, make you Baptist.
So, Craig, you think someone should join a Church just to be able to have a job?
David
David Worley,
1. I meant that as light hearted jab at you as a BIBS(Baptist Identity Boys).
2.I agree with the Founders movement and Michael Haykin that the SBC has its roots in the Particular Baptists and not in the Anabaptist movement. I thought that is what you seem to infer in your Dortian Calvinist comments.
3. Does that make us the FIBS(Founders Identity Boys)….scratch that!!!!!!
Robert I Masters
Still from the SBC Geneva
I have a question for both those on the SBC moderate and conservative sides.
Would you generally consider Baylor University to be more, or less, conservative today than it was 30 years ago?
David R. Brumbelow
What do you mean by “conservative” David?
I think Baylor is probably a completely different school in many ways than it was 30 years ago…
Robert,
lol. That’s funny. BIBS. FIBS. lol.
I get it now.
David
PS. I do tend to lean towards the SBC being a mixture of the two streams coming together.
BDW,
I did not mean the question to be too detailed or specific. I don’t necessarily mean they are more in tune with SBC moderates or conservatives.
But would you consider the BU professors and leadership to be generally more or less conservative, in religion and/or in secular politics, than they were 30 years ago? Not trying to prove anything; just interested in your, and others, perspectives.
Maybe also, is there a contrast along these lines between the older and newer professors and leadership?
David R. Brumbelow
If Baylor is not a “part” of the SBC what does Ken Starr becoming President matter to most of the posters on this Blog?
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Tom,
You Make and excellent point. Have friends that went there. Didn’t sound like a “Baptist” much less a Christian school to me.
Paul
Brother Paul,
You serious? I believe BDW would disagree with you.
Brother BDW,
Brother Bart makes and excellent point over at his place. Maybe you could help us understand something. Baylor began choosing their own trustees/regents back in the 90′s with the argument that they did not want it to become a “conservative” school taken over by the nasty ole conservatives in the SBC. Baylor receives support from the BGCT and the BGCT gets to choose 25% of the trustees/regents for that gift. If the BGCT is the one affiliated with Baylor, then why not allow the BGCT choose all of the trustees/regents? Do you realize that Baylor ceased being a traditional Baptist entity when they choose to begin a self-perpetuating Board of Trustees/Regents?
Blessings,
Tim
David,
If the institution is a Baptist institution that requires its leadership to be Baptist, as in the case of Baylor, then I have no problem with them “having to become Baptist just to get a job.”
But that is not my point. My point is that regardless of the reasons one chooses to identify with a Baptist church, whether it be to get a job or because of deep long held conventions, they are still Baptist by virtue of them saying “I want to identify as being a Baptist.” That is called soul freedom,something the SBC used to value.
I think the decision to go to a self-perpetuating board (before my time, by the way) was the right decision to make. However, we all have to deal with the consequences of our decisions. And I think in some ways the Baylor Family is having to do that now. The Board of Regents has been extremely unpopular for quite some time. But, that’s more or less out of anyone’s control.
Maybe Bart could chime in here. It is my understanding that the BGCT gets 25% representation but the Board has to ultimately approve who the BGCT sends? Is that correct? So, ultimately, it’s not like the BGCT itself via messengers has any meaningful control.
I’m pretty sure that a school can be Baptist and have a self-perpetuating board. the process itself might not be very baptistic but the Baptist distinctiveness can still be recognized in countless other ways. Also, the financial support the BGCT sends Baylor really is an extremely small amount in the context of the entire budget, etc.
I’d like to see Baylor maintain to some degree its Baptist heritage. I hope that heritage will continue to be emphasized through on-campus events, publications, campus ministries. I also would like to see certain parts of Baylor remain in touch with Baptist identity (Religion Department, Truett, etc.) However, it’s pretty clear that Baylor has moved away from his sectarian roots and largely embraced a different identity. Our faculty/staff/student body is increasingly diverse. There is a growing presence of non-Baptist evangelicals and Catholics here on campus. I see that diversity as a good thing. One other thing about diversity, in terms of race/ethnicity, Baylor has really impressed me with its increasing diversity. We did not have that same type of diversity at the University of Georgia.
Brother BDW,
Thanks for the honesty. I honestly cannot say that I agree that self-perpetuating boards is baptist. I believe that I would be standing of more firm ground by saying that self-perpetuating boards are not in our Southern Baptist history, that is, not until Baylor. I know that independent Baptists have always had self-perpetuating boards, but I do not think we can find evidence in Southern Baptist history of BoT choosing their own replacements.
As for Starr’s membership, I believe there is a great Bible church there in Waco that already has faculty attending. I think this would be a good move for the Regents to allow. But, I believe you and I agree on the basic premise, it is disingenuous to make someone join a Baptist church to work at a place.
Blessings,
Tim
Craig,
From what I understand, Lenin soured big time on religion of any sort after he saw his dad join a Church just to make business contacts. Communism was born out of such disingenuous joining of Churches. Now, I dont Starr, nor his wife; and if they are seriously joining a Baptist Church, because of their convictions…then, amen! But, if they’re joining to “just take the job,” then that’s terrible.
And, yes, Craig, as Baptists, and as Americans, we do have the freedom to do a lot of things that arent right…that arent good… that arent the best. We even have the freedom to things that are sinful, in this land of the free and the brave. Still dont make it right.
And, like Bart is saying, if Baylor doesnt want to Baptist anymore; then fine. Dont be Baptist. Bart thinks that they stopped being a Baptist school a long time ago. If so, then Starr was a great hire. But, they need to quit claiming to be Baptist, and they need to certainly stop requiring their Presidents to belong to a Baptist Church.
DAvid
David
More controversy at Baylor. Imagine that.
Do you think this will bring more media attention than allowing dances on campus?
Seriously, Starr will make a good administrator if allowed to lead. However, requiring a non-Baptist to join a Baptist church once offered the job sounds as easy to Starr as checking a box. It minimizes all that Baptists stand for in this crazy world.
I think Mr. Starr should be given a chance before he is totally pilloried or, conversely, totally praised. Won’t one know, of which this shall or will be, by the Fruits and outcomes, as he becomes and is President?
Brother Bob,
I believe no one is either speaking negatively toward or singing the accolades of Mr. Starr. We have merely pointed out that a school that prides itself on being Baptist to the extent they require their president, regardless of his personal beliefs, to become part of a Baptist church.
Blessings,
Tim
Ken Starr said this in an ABP article:
“I accepted the Lord Jesus as my Lord and Savior at the age of 12,” Starr recalled, noting his father baptized him. “I remained in the Churches of Christ tradition through high school.”
“But beginning at about the age of 18, I began having questions about certain practices, beginning with instrumental music,” which the Churches of Christ do not allow in worship services, he said. “As time wore on, I found myself moving into the larger evangelical world.”
Later on, Starr commented that he liked Baptist distinctives, and Baptists views about baptism. Although, he said nothing about getting baptised in his new Baptist Church that he plans to join. So, he has had a Church of Christ baptism…which is for the washing away of their sins! And, he seemed to be saying that instrumental music was one of the reasons he wondered away from the Campbellite faith. And, his wife? from a Jewish background…what of her baptism?
This just gets more interesting by the minute.
David