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		<title>By: Wes Kenney</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2009/07/06/logan-resignation-forced/#comment-8720</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes Kenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To &quot;rsc,&quot; whoever that is:

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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2009/07/06/logan-resignation-forced/#comment-8719</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope we get to the bottom of this. A purely political firing has no place in the leadership of an organization serving our churches. It is no secret that Chapman is not a supporter of the GCR. It seems like a huge coincidence that after a successful convention, its architect would be asked to resign...especially given that the passage of the GSR commission and the reelection of Pastor Hunt were the centerpieces of the convention...even more so when the one asking for the resignation is known to be in opposition. It seems very fishy indeed. I think that the EC should be forced to explain their actions; if there is a good explanation, then fine. If, however, there is not, people should be held accountable. The EC works for our churchs and should not be above being held accountable. Just my 2 cents worth.

God Bless,
Rick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope we get to the bottom of this. A purely political firing has no place in the leadership of an organization serving our churches. It is no secret that Chapman is not a supporter of the GCR. It seems like a huge coincidence that after a successful convention, its architect would be asked to resign&#8230;especially given that the passage of the GSR commission and the reelection of Pastor Hunt were the centerpieces of the convention&#8230;even more so when the one asking for the resignation is known to be in opposition. It seems very fishy indeed. I think that the EC should be forced to explain their actions; if there is a good explanation, then fine. If, however, there is not, people should be held accountable. The EC works for our churchs and should not be above being held accountable. Just my 2 cents worth.</p>
<p>God Bless,<br />
Rick</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kullman</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2009/07/06/logan-resignation-forced/#comment-8718</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Kullman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least they received a comment from Chapman which addresses my earlier post.

http://www.floridabaptistwitness.com/10507.article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least they received a comment from Chapman which addresses my earlier post.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Johnson</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2009/07/06/logan-resignation-forced/#comment-8717</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother WesInTex,

I don’t disagree with you and Bart that the fish on the sidewalk at the corner of 9th and Commerce is beginning to stink a bit…. But, if what you say is true, then Clark has made the right decision and is consistent with his conviction…. which would be to resign.  He may have already determined that the Kingdom is better served by his leaving than his staying, that is his choice.  No one put words in his mouth…..as he said  “We are uncomfortable and embarrassed by being in the center of this attention”.

It sounds like the man loves the Lord and wants the best.  Maybe he doesn’t want to play the victim in this case.  He said … “I also wish God&#039;s blessings on the entire Executive Committee”.  I would be discouraged to find his blessing to be a statement to appease the powerful and not one of sincerity.

Blessings,
Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brother WesInTex,</p>
<p>I don’t disagree with you and Bart that the fish on the sidewalk at the corner of 9th and Commerce is beginning to stink a bit…. But, if what you say is true, then Clark has made the right decision and is consistent with his conviction…. which would be to resign.  He may have already determined that the Kingdom is better served by his leaving than his staying, that is his choice.  No one put words in his mouth…..as he said  “We are uncomfortable and embarrassed by being in the center of this attention”.</p>
<p>It sounds like the man loves the Lord and wants the best.  Maybe he doesn’t want to play the victim in this case.  He said … “I also wish God&#8217;s blessings on the entire Executive Committee”.  I would be discouraged to find his blessing to be a statement to appease the powerful and not one of sincerity.</p>
<p>Blessings,<br />
Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Tim B</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2009/07/06/logan-resignation-forced/#comment-8716</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first reaction is that maybe Chapman is doing what he has been told to do and that is pair down the bloated bureaucracy the EC has been accused of maintaining.  Maybe they&#039;ll forward the money saved to the IMB and let volunteers take over his job.  There is going to be a lot more of this pairing down before the GCR is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first reaction is that maybe Chapman is doing what he has been told to do and that is pair down the bloated bureaucracy the EC has been accused of maintaining.  Maybe they&#8217;ll forward the money saved to the IMB and let volunteers take over his job.  There is going to be a lot more of this pairing down before the GCR is over.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark L</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2009/07/06/logan-resignation-forced/#comment-8715</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony is certainly seen in the high praise the Bro. Logan was given by Chapman in the initial press release.  I mean...why get rid of someone so qualified?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony is certainly seen in the high praise the Bro. Logan was given by Chapman in the initial press release.  I mean&#8230;why get rid of someone so qualified?</p>
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		<title>By: WesInTex</title>
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		<dc:creator>WesInTex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

I don’t know of a “kind” way to terminate anyone.  It’s a hard task that I have on occasion had to take for what I believed to be the best (both in church vocation and secular business).  I have even had to have some of those terminated “escorted” while they cleaned out their offices.  Whether one agrees with the reasons given for termination or not, it is never an easy decision and it is never looked upon as “kind” or “friendly.’

But the truth is that there is a difference between terminating someone with cause – and granting them severance, btw – and forcing someone to resign, leaving nothing but questions.


Chris,

Maybe Logan could have forced someone to fire him, but I doubt that it would have advanced the Kingdom of God – I know it wouldn’t have done anything for his family.  I understand what you’re saying – but perhaps Logan has already received the better jewels.

Grace,
Wes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>I don’t know of a “kind” way to terminate anyone.  It’s a hard task that I have on occasion had to take for what I believed to be the best (both in church vocation and secular business).  I have even had to have some of those terminated “escorted” while they cleaned out their offices.  Whether one agrees with the reasons given for termination or not, it is never an easy decision and it is never looked upon as “kind” or “friendly.’</p>
<p>But the truth is that there is a difference between terminating someone with cause – and granting them severance, btw – and forcing someone to resign, leaving nothing but questions.</p>
<p>Chris,</p>
<p>Maybe Logan could have forced someone to fire him, but I doubt that it would have advanced the Kingdom of God – I know it wouldn’t have done anything for his family.  I understand what you’re saying – but perhaps Logan has already received the better jewels.</p>
<p>Grace,<br />
Wes</p>
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		<title>By: Bart Barber</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2009/07/06/logan-resignation-forced/#comment-8713</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart Barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

I should also have noted that your link certainly DOES provide &quot;a different perspective&quot; on the whole Debusman situation. Different indeed. That article illustrates all the more clearly Debusman&#039;s opposition to the clearly expressed will of the people of the SBC since 1979, and thereby undergirds my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>I should also have noted that your link certainly DOES provide &#8220;a different perspective&#8221; on the whole Debusman situation. Different indeed. That article illustrates all the more clearly Debusman&#8217;s opposition to the clearly expressed will of the people of the SBC since 1979, and thereby undergirds my point.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart Barber</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2009/07/06/logan-resignation-forced/#comment-8712</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart Barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

All things being equal, I agree with you. However, knowing that the person asking has &lt;em&gt;carte blanche&lt;/em&gt; authority to fire you, I can see how someone who cared about the mission of Southern Baptists and the needs of Cooperative Program ministries might rather leave quietly than stand and fight. The fact that others have not allowed him simply to leave quietly (for here we are discussing it noisily) is, according to Logan&#039;s own statement, an &quot;embarrassment&quot; to him and his family, and not something that they have desired or cultivated.

Perhaps, knowing that he had no court of appeal, Logan stepped away quietly for his own conception of the greater good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>All things being equal, I agree with you. However, knowing that the person asking has <em>carte blanche</em> authority to fire you, I can see how someone who cared about the mission of Southern Baptists and the needs of Cooperative Program ministries might rather leave quietly than stand and fight. The fact that others have not allowed him simply to leave quietly (for here we are discussing it noisily) is, according to Logan&#8217;s own statement, an &#8220;embarrassment&#8221; to him and his family, and not something that they have desired or cultivated.</p>
<p>Perhaps, knowing that he had no court of appeal, Logan stepped away quietly for his own conception of the greater good?</p>
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		<title>By: Bart Barber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart Barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

As I have tried to indicate, Clark Logan probably does not qualify as &quot;someone like [me].&quot; We&#039;ve had one and only one interaction ever, and that was when he volunteered to clean my clock.

The difference between the Debusman and Dilday situations on the one hand and the Logan situation on the other hand is that Debusman and Dilday were acting in opposition to the expressed will of the people of the Southern Baptist Convention, while Logan appears to be aligned in favor of the will of the people of the SBC. That&#039;s a noteworthy difference.

Also, I wish to clarify that my objection is not to the way that Logan was treated as he was being fired. I don&#039;t care if the SBC EC had put him up at the Waldorf-Astoria for a month to recuperate from the shock of it all. I&#039;m not asking why he was fired THE WAY that he was fired; I&#039;m asking why he was fired at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>As I have tried to indicate, Clark Logan probably does not qualify as &#8220;someone like [me].&#8221; We&#8217;ve had one and only one interaction ever, and that was when he volunteered to clean my clock.</p>
<p>The difference between the Debusman and Dilday situations on the one hand and the Logan situation on the other hand is that Debusman and Dilday were acting in opposition to the expressed will of the people of the Southern Baptist Convention, while Logan appears to be aligned in favor of the will of the people of the SBC. That&#8217;s a noteworthy difference.</p>
<p>Also, I wish to clarify that my objection is not to the way that Logan was treated as he was being fired. I don&#8217;t care if the SBC EC had put him up at the Waldorf-Astoria for a month to recuperate from the shock of it all. I&#8217;m not asking why he was fired THE WAY that he was fired; I&#8217;m asking why he was fired at all.</p>
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