Comments on: What is Baptist Identity? http://sbctoday.com/2009/02/20/what-is-baptist-identity/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=what-is-baptist-identity A forum for Baptists to dialogue about how best to fulfill God’s calling in our lives. Mon, 21 May 2012 23:41:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: John Daly http://sbctoday.com/2009/02/20/what-is-baptist-identity/#comment-8608 John Daly Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:31:49 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=488#comment-8608 I'm with CB, you can't do a drive-by post and then not expect to either get some props or some challenge. Now Wes, I know you are sooooo busy that it's nigh impossible to keep up with "fast-moving comment streams." :) Sorry gents, I'm with you theologically and you're pretty cool dudes to boot...but I see this as a cop-out and a retreat. That's okay, you stay in the tower and leave the fighting to us. I’m with CB, you can’t do a drive-by post and then not expect to either get some props or some challenge. Now Wes, I know you are sooooo busy that it’s nigh impossible to keep up with “fast-moving comment streams.” :) Sorry gents, I’m with you theologically and you’re pretty cool dudes to boot…but I see this as a cop-out and a retreat. That’s okay, you stay in the tower and leave the fighting to us.

]]> By: Rex Ray http://sbctoday.com/2009/02/20/what-is-baptist-identity/#comment-8607 Rex Ray Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:51:32 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=488#comment-8607 Alan, You said, “It is a shame that you turned comments off…” I believe it’s more than a shame. I believe it reflects the attitude of dictators. The way I retaliate is not read them. Alan,
You said, “It is a shame that you turned comments off…”

I believe it’s more than a shame. I believe it reflects the attitude of dictators. The way I retaliate is not read them.

]]> By: cb scott http://sbctoday.com/2009/02/20/what-is-baptist-identity/#comment-8606 cb scott Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:33:14 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=488#comment-8606 Well, So long guys. It has been fun. But no more comments means the end of the party I reckon. You boys watch out for bad outlaws. They are everywhere. :-) cb Well, So long guys. It has been fun. But no more comments means the end of the party I reckon. You boys watch out for bad outlaws. They are everywhere.

:-)

cb

]]> By: Robert http://sbctoday.com/2009/02/20/what-is-baptist-identity/#comment-8605 Robert Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:11:33 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=488#comment-8605 Volfan- My statement was not meant to be malicious but was simply an observation of my last year or so here on this blog. I would hope you do take offense. While I may have taken a harsh route to my point it remains for me true. For all the main issues argued on this blog I have seen good biblical support for beliefs other than your own, and the group you mention, laughed at (not always but more often than not) and discounted as some ridiculous misinterpretation. This to me is actually worse than distorting scripture. It is cheapening the gift that we have as Christians to read and understand the word through the power of the Holy Spirit. That is what I fight for the most, not the issues in which we disagree, but the ability to determine what I believe based on the whole Bible and not be considered an idiot and someone to be made sport of. The same way that I said you have distorted scripture has been implied to me more times than I can count just because I have a differing view. I am truly sorry if you consider me mean. Welcome to how I feel everytime I try to begin a positive dialogue with anyone on this site who holds an opposing view to me. Volfan-
My statement was not meant to be malicious but was simply an observation of my last year or so here on this blog. I would hope you do take offense. While I may have taken a harsh route to my point it remains for me true. For all the main issues argued on this blog I have seen good biblical support for beliefs other than your own, and the group you mention, laughed at (not always but more often than not) and discounted as some ridiculous misinterpretation. This to me is actually worse than distorting scripture. It is cheapening the gift that we have as Christians to read and understand the word through the power of the Holy Spirit. That is what I fight for the most, not the issues in which we disagree, but the ability to determine what I believe based on the whole Bible and not be considered an idiot and someone to be made sport of. The same way that I said you have distorted scripture has been implied to me more times than I can count just because I have a differing view. I am truly sorry if you consider me mean. Welcome to how I feel everytime I try to begin a positive dialogue with anyone on this site who holds an opposing view to me.

]]> By: volfan007 http://sbctoday.com/2009/02/20/what-is-baptist-identity/#comment-8604 volfan007 Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:52:17 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=488#comment-8604 I believe the whole Bible, and I study it, meditate on it, beleive it, and try to live it. I can assure you that Robin and Wes and Bart and Dr. Yarnell and the others in the so-called BI group do the same. We do not pull out our pet Scriptures and just hang our hats on them. I really dont see how you could even say that, or what would make you think that. It's bizarre that you would even say that. Also, even more bizarre is that you would say that I distort Scripture. How mean of you to say that to me, and how untrue it is. I base everything about my life on what the Bible says. I have tried very, very hard to make sure that everything I believe lines up with the clear teachings of Scripture. So, I really take offense to what you are saying here. It's untrue. It's slanderous. God bless you, Robert. David I believe the whole Bible, and I study it, meditate on it, beleive it, and try to live it.

I can assure you that Robin and Wes and Bart and Dr. Yarnell and the others in the so-called BI group do the same. We do not pull out our pet Scriptures and just hang our hats on them. I really dont see how you could even say that, or what would make you think that. It’s bizarre that you would even say that.

Also, even more bizarre is that you would say that I distort Scripture. How mean of you to say that to me, and how untrue it is. I base everything about my life on what the Bible says. I have tried very, very hard to make sure that everything I believe lines up with the clear teachings of Scripture. So, I really take offense to what you are saying here. It’s untrue. It’s slanderous.

God bless you, Robert.

David

]]> By: Robert http://sbctoday.com/2009/02/20/what-is-baptist-identity/#comment-8603 Robert Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:30:48 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=488#comment-8603 Volfan said- "Goodness gracious, you’re distorting that verse very badly to make it say what you want it to say." You are the ranking expert on distorting scripture to make it say what you want. Volfan said- “Goodness gracious, you’re distorting that verse very badly to make it say what you want it to say.” You are the ranking expert on distorting scripture to make it say what you want.

]]> By: Robert http://sbctoday.com/2009/02/20/what-is-baptist-identity/#comment-8602 Robert Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:28:39 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=488#comment-8602 But see, That is our whole point We are in total agreement with sound, clear bible teaching. The WHOLE Bible, not just those that support our pet beliefs. I have read this blog for sometime now and am convinced that most, including yourself, do not take a full view of scripture especially when it doesn't support the fundamentalist bent. In fact you discount anyone and any scripture that could put your views in question. I know that I may not be right, but I am familiar with what the entire Bible says about my beliefs and make my decisions based on the whole. And as I keep saying, I am a conservative that believes in the entire teachings of scripture as the inerrant word of God. But see, That is our whole point We are in total agreement with sound, clear bible teaching. The WHOLE Bible, not just those that support our pet beliefs. I have read this blog for sometime now and am convinced that most, including yourself, do not take a full view of scripture especially when it doesn’t support the fundamentalist bent. In fact you discount anyone and any scripture that could put your views in question. I know that I may not be right, but I am familiar with what the entire Bible says about my beliefs and make my decisions based on the whole. And as I keep saying, I am a conservative that believes in the entire teachings of scripture as the inerrant word of God.

]]> By: volfan007 http://sbctoday.com/2009/02/20/what-is-baptist-identity/#comment-8601 volfan007 Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:51:02 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=488#comment-8601 Rex, Goodness gracious, you're distorting that verse very badly to make it say what you want it to say. Shame, shame, shame! These Churches would reject preachers because of their low view of Scripture, and their departure from sound, clear Bible teaching. And, you are correct, the majority is not always correct. But, in this case, the majority of the Churches in W. TN, and W. KY and Arkansas and the bootheel of MO and MS would be correct. I have advised Churches in most of these states to watch out for people who deny the clear teachings of Scripture, and who do not believe in the infallible, inerrant Word of God. David Rex,

Goodness gracious, you’re distorting that verse very badly to make it say what you want it to say. Shame, shame, shame!

These Churches would reject preachers because of their low view of Scripture, and their departure from sound, clear Bible teaching.

And, you are correct, the majority is not always correct. But, in this case, the majority of the Churches in W. TN, and W. KY and Arkansas and the bootheel of MO and MS would be correct. I have advised Churches in most of these states to watch out for people who deny the clear teachings of Scripture, and who do not believe in the infallible, inerrant Word of God.

David

]]> By: From the Middle East http://sbctoday.com/2009/02/20/what-is-baptist-identity/#comment-8600 From the Middle East Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:49:34 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=488#comment-8600 Brother John, "Great Commission Christian" (GCC) is a termed commonly used by the IMB for those who are not IMB/SB, but are evangelicals. There is a different type of partnership that can take place between GCCs and SBs than can take place between SBs and, say, Roman Catholics. This is all well defined by the IMB's concentric circles of cooperation - at least it was when I was a part of the organization. In a world where everyone uses words differently we often have to define them in a way that makes sense to all... though I would prefer all who name the Name of Jesus to be focused on the Great Commission! Peace to you brother, From the Middle East Brother John,

“Great Commission Christian” (GCC) is a termed commonly used by the IMB for those who are not IMB/SB, but are evangelicals. There is a different type of partnership that can take place between GCCs and SBs than can take place between SBs and, say, Roman Catholics. This is all well defined by the IMB’s concentric circles of cooperation – at least it was when I was a part of the organization. In a world where everyone uses words differently we often have to define them in a way that makes sense to all… though I would prefer all who name the Name of Jesus to be focused on the Great Commission!

Peace to you brother,
From the Middle East

]]> By: Rex Ray http://sbctoday.com/2009/02/20/what-is-baptist-identity/#comment-8599 Rex Ray Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:16:49 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=488#comment-8599 David 007, You said the vast majority of churches would not welcome Robert and me. You sound like the words told to Paul: “You see…how many thousands of Jews [fundamentalists/conservatives] there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law [C/R].” Robert and I are lucky in not being “welcome”—the majority wanted to kill Paul. What I’m trying to say, David; the majority is not always right. Robin, Thanks. David 007,
You said the vast majority of churches would not welcome Robert and me.

You sound like the words told to Paul:

“You see…how many thousands of Jews [fundamentalists/conservatives] there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law [C/R].”

Robert and I are lucky in not being “welcome”—the majority wanted to kill Paul.

What I’m trying to say, David; the majority is not always right.

Robin,
Thanks.

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