Comments on: The Southern Baptists of Texas Convention and the GCR http://sbctoday.com/2008/11/17/the-southern-baptists-of-texas-convention-and-the-gcr/ Restoring Unity through Biblical Discipleship and Baptist Identity Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:50:37 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Robin Foster http://sbctoday.com/2008/11/17/the-southern-baptists-of-texas-convention-and-the-gcr/comment-page-1/#comment-6933 Robin Foster Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:26:37 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=305#comment-6933 Les Thanks for the link. Keep us up to date on your blog concerning the progress your church is making in implementing this. I have gotten some great ideas on what you have blogged. Thanks. Robin Les

Thanks for the link. Keep us up to date on your blog concerning the progress your church is making in implementing this. I have gotten some great ideas on what you have blogged. Thanks.

Robin

]]> By: Les Puryear http://sbctoday.com/2008/11/17/the-southern-baptists-of-texas-convention-and-the-gcr/comment-page-1/#comment-6928 Les Puryear Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:01:42 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=305#comment-6928 A resolution is okay I guess, but what would really demonstrate our seriousness about the Great Commission is that every church would implement the Acts 1:8 Challenge. Here's the website: http://www.actsone8.com. Les A resolution is okay I guess, but what would really demonstrate our seriousness about the Great Commission is that every church would implement the Acts 1:8 Challenge. Here’s the website: http://www.actsone8.com.

Les

]]> By: John Fariss http://sbctoday.com/2008/11/17/the-southern-baptists-of-texas-convention-and-the-gcr/comment-page-1/#comment-6896 John Fariss Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:57:30 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=305#comment-6896 So, uh. . . what makes you guys think resolutions are going to be any more effective in creating a "GCR" than they are in any other area? Even if they are "just" as effective as most resolutions, whether at the state level or at the SBC . . . isn't that just a big "so what"? They let us make some propoganda and fel good about something instead of actually accomplishing anything. So, uh. . . what makes you guys think resolutions are going to be any more effective in creating a “GCR” than they are in any other area? Even if they are “just” as effective as most resolutions, whether at the state level or at the SBC . . . isn’t that just a big “so what”? They let us make some propoganda and fel good about something instead of actually accomplishing anything.

]]> By: Benji Ramsaur http://sbctoday.com/2008/11/17/the-southern-baptists-of-texas-convention-and-the-gcr/comment-page-1/#comment-6881 Benji Ramsaur Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:21:12 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=305#comment-6881 "WHEREAS, our confessional statement, The Baptist Faith and Message, clearly states that there are certain “doctrines we hold precious and as essential to the Baptist tradition of faith and practice”; now, therefore, be it" BF&M 2000 "The Holy Spirit...He baptizes every believer into the Body of Christ" B.H. Carroll--"Suppose we take the twelfth chapter of First Corinthians. If you want to get muddled you should read what the commentators say on the subject. What is it? It reads in the King James Version this way: 'By one Spirit we are all baptized into one body.' It reads in the new version, 'In one Spirit we were all baptized into one body.' Notice the difference in the two renderings. The King James Version makes the Holy Spirit the administrator, 'By one Spirit.' THE HOLY SPIRIT NEVER ADMINISTERS BAPTISM. He is the element, not the administrator." (Emphasis mine--"The Holy Spirit"; Pg. 29 from AGES software) Personally, I agree with B.H. Carroll that the Spirit never baptizes over against the view advocated by the BF&M 2000. God Bless Benji P.S. I encourage all to see Grudem's systematic theology as well--Pg. 767 “WHEREAS, our confessional statement, The Baptist Faith and Message, clearly states that there are certain “doctrines we hold precious and as essential to the Baptist tradition of faith and practice”; now, therefore, be it”

BF&M 2000 “The Holy Spirit…He baptizes every believer into the Body of Christ”

B.H. Carroll–”Suppose we take the twelfth chapter of First Corinthians. If you want to get muddled you should read what the commentators say on the subject. What is it? It reads in the King James Version this way: ‘By one Spirit we are all baptized into one body.’ It reads in the new version, ‘In one Spirit we were all baptized into one body.’ Notice the difference in the two renderings. The King James Version makes the Holy Spirit the administrator, ‘By one Spirit.’ THE HOLY SPIRIT NEVER ADMINISTERS BAPTISM. He is the element, not the administrator.” (Emphasis mine–”The Holy Spirit”; Pg. 29 from AGES software)

Personally, I agree with B.H. Carroll that the Spirit never baptizes over against the view advocated by the BF&M 2000.

God Bless

Benji

P.S. I encourage all to see Grudem’s systematic theology as well–Pg. 767

]]> By: Kevin Davis http://sbctoday.com/2008/11/17/the-southern-baptists-of-texas-convention-and-the-gcr/comment-page-1/#comment-6859 Kevin Davis Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:43:49 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=305#comment-6859 Thanks, Robin, for the info. For what it's worth, however, I don't think this resolution will do jack...at least, not until deeper problems are addressed, namely the inability of Southern Baptists to address the gospel to those without Christian presuppositions. There's a deeper problem concerned with a lack of intellectual resources among Southern Baptists who genuinely know the Gospel but do not know the culture apart from its obvious decadence. Anyway, for what it's worth, I did a post on this at my blog: <a href="http://dogmatics.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">After Existentialism, Light</a>. It is currently the second post. God bless. Thanks, Robin, for the info. For what it’s worth, however, I don’t think this resolution will do jack…at least, not until deeper problems are addressed, namely the inability of Southern Baptists to address the gospel to those without Christian presuppositions. There’s a deeper problem concerned with a lack of intellectual resources among Southern Baptists who genuinely know the Gospel but do not know the culture apart from its obvious decadence.

Anyway, for what it’s worth, I did a post on this at my blog: After Existentialism, Light. It is currently the second post. God bless.

]]> By: Geoff Baggett http://sbctoday.com/2008/11/17/the-southern-baptists-of-texas-convention-and-the-gcr/comment-page-1/#comment-6857 Geoff Baggett Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:28:05 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=305#comment-6857 Yes! We need more resolutions. The are so effective ... ;) Yes! We need more resolutions. The are so effective … ;)

]]> By: volfan007 http://sbctoday.com/2008/11/17/the-southern-baptists-of-texas-convention-and-the-gcr/comment-page-1/#comment-6834 volfan007 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:05:01 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=305#comment-6834 Robert, Are you saying that Texas Baptist Churches do not preach and teach the entire Bible? Please explain. David Robert,

Are you saying that Texas Baptist Churches do not preach and teach the entire Bible?

Please explain.

David

]]> By: robert http://sbctoday.com/2008/11/17/the-southern-baptists-of-texas-convention-and-the-gcr/comment-page-1/#comment-6829 robert Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:33:14 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=305#comment-6829 I will admit I tend to be pessimistic at times but I certainly hope that this, “RESOLVED, that we devote ourselves to both promote and practice text-driven preaching and teaching of the ENTIRE BIBLE (my emphasis) and how it relates to Christ and God’s redemptive plan; and be it further.....” will actually begin to happen in the SBTC. It would be life-changing and mind boggling. Not holding his breath, Robert I will admit I tend to be pessimistic at times but I certainly hope that this,

“RESOLVED, that we devote ourselves to both promote and practice text-driven preaching and teaching of the ENTIRE BIBLE (my emphasis) and how it relates to Christ and God’s redemptive plan; and be it further…..”

will actually begin to happen in the SBTC. It would be life-changing and mind boggling.

Not holding his breath,

Robert

]]> By: cb scott http://sbctoday.com/2008/11/17/the-southern-baptists-of-texas-convention-and-the-gcr/comment-page-1/#comment-6827 cb scott Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:24:03 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/?p=305#comment-6827 May every state convention and local Baptist association and every local church resolve to do the same. cb May every state convention and local Baptist association and every local church resolve to do the same.

cb

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