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		<title>By: The Backstory to the Great Commission Resurgence &#171; Provocations &#38; Pantings</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2008/05/18/a-resolution-on-doctrine/#comment-4373</link>
		<dc:creator>The Backstory to the Great Commission Resurgence &#171; Provocations &#38; Pantings</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] A Resolution on Doctrine by John Mann (May 18, 2008) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Strange BaptistFire &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A resolution I wish the Convention had seen</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2008/05/18/a-resolution-on-doctrine/#comment-4372</link>
		<dc:creator>Strange BaptistFire &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A resolution I wish the Convention had seen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The following resolution was written by John Mann and submitted to the Resolutions Committee, but only the title was given in Wednesday&#8217;s bulletin, followed by the word &#8220;declined,&#8221; so messengers never got to see or vote upon this resolution. [This is the text from SBC Today]: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The following resolution was written by John Mann and submitted to the Resolutions Committee, but only the title was given in Wednesday&#8217;s bulletin, followed by the word &#8220;declined,&#8221; so messengers never got to see or vote upon this resolution. [This is the text from SBC Today]: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Darrin</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2008/05/18/a-resolution-on-doctrine/#comment-4371</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure how direct or unambiguous a resolution needs to be to have the desired effects, but I appreciate John&#039;s work here because of that which is often encountered at the local church level, i.e. &quot;What&#039;s so important about doctrine?&quot;, and in the SBC at large, where perhaps other concerns or agendas may tempt to trump doctrinal integrity. As has been said before, what&#039;s so important about standing for the inerrancy of scripture if we can&#039;t know what the scripture means?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure how direct or unambiguous a resolution needs to be to have the desired effects, but I appreciate John&#8217;s work here because of that which is often encountered at the local church level, i.e. &#8220;What&#8217;s so important about doctrine?&#8221;, and in the SBC at large, where perhaps other concerns or agendas may tempt to trump doctrinal integrity. As has been said before, what&#8217;s so important about standing for the inerrancy of scripture if we can&#8217;t know what the scripture means?</p>
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		<title>By: John Fariss</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2008/05/18/a-resolution-on-doctrine/#comment-4370</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fariss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

I have served mostly troubled churches for the last 22 years (excluding my present place of service) so I have learned to appreciate a direct approach, over and against passive-aggressive approaches, etc.  I do not suggest yours is that, but if your purpose is to encourage pastors to teach doctrine, this motion seems anything but direct.  You write, &quot;If I could sum up the resolution in one sentence it would be, &#039;I encourage the pastors and teachers to teach lay people doctrine so they are able to withstand the false doctrines that are prevalent within our world&#039;.&quot;  Seems to me it would eleminate a lot of the suspecion and uncertsintly if you worded your resolution as simply as your summary.  What would be the problem with that?

John Fariss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I have served mostly troubled churches for the last 22 years (excluding my present place of service) so I have learned to appreciate a direct approach, over and against passive-aggressive approaches, etc.  I do not suggest yours is that, but if your purpose is to encourage pastors to teach doctrine, this motion seems anything but direct.  You write, &#8220;If I could sum up the resolution in one sentence it would be, &#8216;I encourage the pastors and teachers to teach lay people doctrine so they are able to withstand the false doctrines that are prevalent within our world&#8217;.&#8221;  Seems to me it would eleminate a lot of the suspecion and uncertsintly if you worded your resolution as simply as your summary.  What would be the problem with that?</p>
<p>John Fariss</p>
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		<title>By: Strange BaptistFire &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thoughts on the Upcoming Vote for the SBC Presidency?</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2008/05/18/a-resolution-on-doctrine/#comment-4369</link>
		<dc:creator>Strange BaptistFire &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thoughts on the Upcoming Vote for the SBC Presidency?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I assume that any Southern Baptists reading this post who are able will be attending the Southern Baptist Convention annual meeting on June 10-11 in Indianapolis as messengers from your various congregations and will vote in favor of Tom Ascol&#8217;s Resolution on Integrity in Church Membership as well as John Mann&#8217;s Resolution on Doctrine. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I assume that any Southern Baptists reading this post who are able will be attending the Southern Baptist Convention annual meeting on June 10-11 in Indianapolis as messengers from your various congregations and will vote in favor of Tom Ascol&#8217;s Resolution on Integrity in Church Membership as well as John Mann&#8217;s Resolution on Doctrine. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Pruett</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2008/05/18/a-resolution-on-doctrine/#comment-4368</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Pruett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 05:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting discussion.  What is the greater danger to the SBC just now, creeping ecuminicism or creeping legalism?  Is it that we have too little concern about doctrine or too much concern about conformity on specific, disputable doctrinal positions?  I would suggest that recent happenings in the SBC provide more evidence for the reality of the latter danger in each case than the former.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting discussion.  What is the greater danger to the SBC just now, creeping ecuminicism or creeping legalism?  Is it that we have too little concern about doctrine or too much concern about conformity on specific, disputable doctrinal positions?  I would suggest that recent happenings in the SBC provide more evidence for the reality of the latter danger in each case than the former.</p>
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		<title>By: Strider</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2008/05/18/a-resolution-on-doctrine/#comment-4367</link>
		<dc:creator>Strider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Middle East, you noticed me!  I figured my comment was either ignored because it was not understood or because noone wanted to understand it.  Thanks for letting me know I am not invisible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Middle East, you noticed me!  I figured my comment was either ignored because it was not understood or because noone wanted to understand it.  Thanks for letting me know I am not invisible.</p>
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		<title>By: from the middle east</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2008/05/18/a-resolution-on-doctrine/#comment-4366</link>
		<dc:creator>from the middle east</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 23:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother Strider said in comment # 38:

the first ‘whereas’ is incorrect. We are to make disciples by teaching them to OBEY all Christ commands. This little four letter word has been omitted for many many years to the spiritual death of too many. By leaving out the word ‘obey’ you get a religion of knowledge.

I say, &quot;AMEN!&quot;

His peace be yours in abundance,
From the Middle East</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brother Strider said in comment # 38:</p>
<p>the first ‘whereas’ is incorrect. We are to make disciples by teaching them to OBEY all Christ commands. This little four letter word has been omitted for many many years to the spiritual death of too many. By leaving out the word ‘obey’ you get a religion of knowledge.</p>
<p>I say, &#8220;AMEN!&#8221;</p>
<p>His peace be yours in abundance,<br />
From the Middle East</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2008/05/18/a-resolution-on-doctrine/#comment-4365</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 22:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

I am sorry that you are unaware of the particulars of Ascol&#039;s plight for the last two years to get his resolution out of committee. Maybe you are aware of Steve Lemke&#039;s recent (and ill-worded) email to his faculty at NOBTS decrying that the reason Ascol&#039;s resolution never saw the light of day was because of it&#039;s wording. Despite those who claim the contrary, Ascol&#039;s resolution neither instructs nor commands churches to do anything. There is language such as &#039;urge&#039; and &#039;encourage&#039;, but there is no language that impugns the autonomy of local churches. Your resolution uses very similar wording as Ascol&#039;s.

My question then, is, what hope do you have that your resolution will make it out of committee if it strikes of the same language as Ascol&#039;s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I am sorry that you are unaware of the particulars of Ascol&#8217;s plight for the last two years to get his resolution out of committee. Maybe you are aware of Steve Lemke&#8217;s recent (and ill-worded) email to his faculty at NOBTS decrying that the reason Ascol&#8217;s resolution never saw the light of day was because of it&#8217;s wording. Despite those who claim the contrary, Ascol&#8217;s resolution neither instructs nor commands churches to do anything. There is language such as &#8216;urge&#8217; and &#8216;encourage&#8217;, but there is no language that impugns the autonomy of local churches. Your resolution uses very similar wording as Ascol&#8217;s.</p>
<p>My question then, is, what hope do you have that your resolution will make it out of committee if it strikes of the same language as Ascol&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>By: cb scott</title>
		<link>http://sbctoday.com/2008/05/18/a-resolution-on-doctrine/#comment-4364</link>
		<dc:creator>cb scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

You certainly have misjudged me.

I would not own one of them Italian Salvus Mox &quot;Tractus.&quot;

My &quot;Tractus&quot; is a John Deere.

:-)

cb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>You certainly have misjudged me.</p>
<p>I would not own one of them Italian Salvus Mox &#8220;Tractus.&#8221;</p>
<p>My &#8220;Tractus&#8221; is a John Deere.</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>cb</p>
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