He should not hire anyone that he does not want teaching. There is nothing preventing him from hiring only those that fit into his theological parameters, I dont think anyone anywhere is saying anything differently.

He had an individual in place, who was conservative, was hired by a conservative Dean/provost (Blaising), president (Hemphill) and board of trustees. There was a faculty manual in place that detailed the tenure process. They should have let her go through the tenure process, followed the process to the letter and then done as they pleased.

It is doubtfull that tenure would have been granted, but the process would have been followed. there have been plenty of proffs that have gone through the process, men and women, who have not been granted tenure for one reason or another.

I doubt that Dr Klouda would have taught any more heresies in instructing theses poor weak minds than she already had. the men and women that she taught hebrew to would have learned the language and probably picked up a bit of (very conservative) theology along the way.

Jim

do you know dr. patterson? do you have first hand knowledge about what all took place? you make some very harsh judgements about dr. patterson and his “clones” if you dont?

you sound like a very angry person as well.

scotty and others,

what should dr. patterson do if he feels very strongly that women should not teach men theology, and he feels that teaching hebrew to pastors and future pastors fits that bill? how should he have handled it differently?

david

You ask if I hold to the absolute view of Matthew 18 and 1 Corinthians 6 even “with regard to the lawsuits filed by the Missouri State Convention.” Yes, I do – please see my comment #120 above.

Grace,
Wes

I hold an absolute view on Matthew 18. Lawsuits will always be made, be it with Christians or non-Christians. Matthew 18 is the best resolution that provides “unity” to its recipients that are the church. Lawsuits rarely provide unity, if ever.

Blessings,
Chris

I couldn’t. For some reason I still believe he works for us, not vice versa.

I have seen Matthew 18 abused waaaaay too much and used for the leaders benefit. Remember, he who controls, wins. And I agree that the result is already bound in heaven but ONLY if done in persuing truth, with humility and love. Not when it is controlled and directed for a predetermined outcome by men in power.

So, why isn’t anything happening, guys? Why isn’t your guy settling, asking for forgiveness and doing the right thing? (I am talking to the Patterson apologists) He holds the cards and power to do so.

Why? Because he does not think he has done anything wrong. Neither do his trustees nor his clones. NOr does he think his high life using CP dollars is wrong, nor his private ministry he runs from the mansion he had renovated. The list goes on. He has made a career out of the SBC for personal gain, control and power. He needs to go.

Forgiveness
We all make mistakes and if we are Christians, we need to ask God for forgiveness. If our actions offend another person we should go to that person and ask for Forgiveness. If we are in a high profile position, we need to make sure our Repentance (asking for forgiveness) is heard by the masses. I Pray this helps You.
In His Name
Wayne

Let me try to tie this back to the original intent of this post, before Tim gives me the boot of fellowship. (smile)

Conservative Resurgence only carries true meaning if it follows and obeys the Word of God. I would hope that we are not trying to define CR (whatever that is), while denying the authority and sufficiency of the very processes that God has ordained for His church. If these simple processes like Matthew 18 cannot be practiced, or in this case “started”, then that is clear evidence that the wrong meaning of CR is being invented.

Blessings,
Chris