Comments on: Interview with Dr. Bill Wagner http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/ Restoring Unity through Biblical Discipleship and Baptist Identity Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:55:57 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Same Old Same Old « Wiser Time http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/comment-page-1/#comment-5549 Same Old Same Old « Wiser Time Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:18:34 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/#comment-5549 [...] continue to heat up. Recently a nominee for the presidency of the Southern Baptist Convention brought up the old charge that the doctrine of predestination “has a tendency to blunt the sharp edge of [...] [...] continue to heat up. Recently a nominee for the presidency of the Southern Baptist Convention brought up the old charge that the doctrine of predestination “has a tendency to blunt the sharp edge of [...]

]]> By: Jonathon http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/comment-page-1/#comment-4995 Jonathon Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:52:20 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/#comment-4995 It might be interesting information for Dr. Wagner that the seminary that leads the way in seeing its students embrace Calvinism is the same seminary that leads the way in sending students to the IMB! Southern Seminary!! It might be interesting information for Dr. Wagner that the seminary that leads the way in seeing its students embrace Calvinism is the same seminary that leads the way in sending students to the IMB!

Southern Seminary!!

]]> By: Poll: Who do you support for SBC President? | SBC Voices http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/comment-page-1/#comment-4591 Poll: Who do you support for SBC President? | SBC Voices Sat, 24 May 2008 04:31:33 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/#comment-4591 [...] Interview with Dr. Bill Wagner [...] [...] Interview with Dr. Bill Wagner [...]

]]> By: Paul http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/comment-page-1/#comment-3150 Paul Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:32:01 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/#comment-3150 Hi Neal, sounds great.... I guess Bill is not condemning us but simply seems to say we will focus more on that area.... it's how we take the message. Secondly, about being humble... well I guess he desires to serve, if those who vote considers him. He is not yet a President, he is only saying he would like to be if considered. I guess we should rather compare what the possible candidates will bring new ideas and perspective to the Presidentship rather than keep judging Bill. Blessings, Paul Hi Neal, sounds great…. I guess Bill is not condemning us but simply seems to say we will focus more on that area…. it’s how we take the message.

Secondly, about being humble… well I guess he desires to serve, if those who vote considers him. He is not yet a President, he is only saying he would like to be if considered.

I guess we should rather compare what the possible candidates will bring new ideas and perspective to the Presidentship rather than keep judging Bill.

Blessings,
Paul

]]> By: Chris Johnson http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/comment-page-1/#comment-2644 Chris Johnson Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:00:44 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/#comment-2644 Sister SelahV, You are so right,... He is our all in all. Ephesians 1:13-14 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, (14) who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory. Blessings, Chris Sister SelahV,

You are so right,… He is our all in all.

Ephesians 1:13-14 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation–having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, (14) who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory.

Blessings,
Chris

]]> By: Neal http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/comment-page-1/#comment-2621 Neal Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:49:05 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/#comment-2621 Dr. Wagner, I am a calvinist pastor of a church in McCalla, Alabama. Recently we introduced our new vision for 2008 and beyond and the second point of our vision is "To Do Biblical Missions and Evangelism." Our church is very much committed to both spreading the gospel and also planting churches. So it is not fair for you to assume that just because someone may be a calvinist when it comes to theology that they are not evangelistic. I would direct you to Ed Stetzer who works for LIFEWAY in the research department and their study about calvinists in the SBC. We do care about the gospel and evangelism. NEAL Dr. Wagner,
I am a calvinist pastor of a church in McCalla, Alabama. Recently we introduced our new vision for 2008 and beyond and the second point of our vision is “To Do Biblical Missions and Evangelism.” Our church is very much committed to both spreading the gospel and also planting churches. So it is not fair for you to assume that just because someone may be a calvinist when it comes to theology that they are not evangelistic. I would direct you to Ed Stetzer who works for LIFEWAY in the research department and their study about calvinists in the SBC. We do care about the gospel and evangelism.
NEAL

]]> By: selahV http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/comment-page-1/#comment-2600 selahV Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:26:48 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/#comment-2600 Chris: "If you teach Law (commands) all the time… without the remedy…. you end up with lopsided immature believers that want to talk about what needs to be achieved, while losing focus on the one (Christ) that has achieved." We could all do well to "pause and think about that" statement. All we have in Christ Jesus gives us all we need to counter the evil in this world. If only we could all see this. Jesus opens my eyes more and more every day. And when He does, the tears of my soul cleanse me from all iniquity. Oh for that glorious day when I shall cry no more and there shall be no more tears. selahV Chris: “If you teach Law (commands) all the time… without the remedy…. you end up with lopsided immature believers that want to talk about what needs to be achieved, while losing focus on the one (Christ) that has achieved.”

We could all do well to “pause and think about that” statement. All we have in Christ Jesus gives us all we need to counter the evil in this world. If only we could all see this. Jesus opens my eyes more and more every day. And when He does, the tears of my soul cleanse me from all iniquity. Oh for that glorious day when I shall cry no more and there shall be no more tears. selahV

]]> By: Chris Johnson http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/comment-page-1/#comment-2599 Chris Johnson Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:13:53 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/#comment-2599 Brother Bill, That is an excellent observation concerning the resolutions that seem to capture the interest of so many of the Baptist’s. One of the main reasons that resolutions are so prevalent and in many cases are without scriptural context is because the Law is being taught without the Gospel. Sometimes I am not sure if Pastors really know the difference. If you teach Law (commands) all the time… without the remedy…. you end up with lopsided immature believers that want to talk about what needs to be achieved, while losing focus on the one (Christ) that has achieved. When we begin to see resolutions involving the true Gospel (Remedy) rise to the surface more often…. that will be some evidence that the seminaries and pastorates are once again focused on the preaching of the Gospel. The disciples in the pews only reveal what they know! Blessings, Chris Brother Bill,

That is an excellent observation concerning the resolutions that seem to capture the interest of so many of the Baptist’s.

One of the main reasons that resolutions are so prevalent and in many cases are without scriptural context is because the Law is being taught without the Gospel. Sometimes I am not sure if Pastors really know the difference. If you teach Law (commands) all the time… without the remedy…. you end up with lopsided immature believers that want to talk about what needs to be achieved, while losing focus on the one (Christ) that has achieved.

When we begin to see resolutions involving the true Gospel (Remedy) rise to the surface more often…. that will be some evidence that the seminaries and pastorates are once again focused on the preaching of the Gospel. The disciples in the pews only reveal what they know!

Blessings,
Chris

]]> By: Bill http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/comment-page-1/#comment-2597 Bill Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:23:53 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/#comment-2597 Chris, Fair enough. I for one would love to see the president of the SBC lead us to stop wasting time with resolutions that don't impact the gospel like global warming, supreme court, alcohol, hate crimes legislation, abandoning public schools, etc. The majority of resolutions from 2006 are a good example. How about the SBC messengers pass one overarching resolution that says that Southern Baptists should seek to be good citizens and leave it at that. Then each individual can judge and live out what that means. Chris,

Fair enough. I for one would love to see the president of the SBC lead us to stop wasting time with resolutions that don’t impact the gospel like global warming, supreme court, alcohol, hate crimes legislation, abandoning public schools, etc. The majority of resolutions from 2006 are a good example. How about the SBC messengers pass one overarching resolution that says that Southern Baptists should seek to be good citizens and leave it at that. Then each individual can judge and live out what that means.

]]> By: Chris Johnson http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/comment-page-1/#comment-2595 Chris Johnson Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:37:13 +0000 http://sbctoday.com/2008/03/07/interview-with-dr-bill-wagner/#comment-2595 Brother Bill, I don't doubt that the Gospel is in there somewhere, but I would prefer to see it front and center. I think you can add all those things (missions, outreach, evangelism, influence for Christ, etc.), but it seems the preaching of the Gospel takes a backseat to programs, organization or the next best marketing scheme these days... I am looking for the man that sees the preaching of the Gospel as the only actual power and means. And I am with you on the desire....I don't mind a guy aspiring to lead....just make the Gospel front and center and often. Blessings, Chris Brother Bill,

I don’t doubt that the Gospel is in there somewhere, but I would prefer to see it front and center. I think you can add all those things (missions, outreach, evangelism, influence for Christ, etc.), but it seems the preaching of the Gospel takes a backseat to programs, organization or the next best marketing scheme these days… I am looking for the man that sees the preaching of the Gospel as the only actual power and means.

And I am with you on the desire….I don’t mind a guy aspiring to lead….just make the Gospel front and center and often.

Blessings,
Chris

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